September 5, 2007
ALWAYS BET ON BLACK:
America's Future Ally (NIBRAS KAZIMI, September 5, 2007, NY Sun)
For the past two months, I've been traveling around the Middle East for this paper, looking for trends, and it's no wonder why I haven't written anything throughout that time — nothing looks certain.My itinerary has taken me to Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Turkey — each of them has ongoing major stories — but it's been one long murky summer where much seems to be in flux. The one trend that seems crystal clear to me is that Iraq will make it; Iraq will turn out fine. [...]
Al Qaeda tried to trigger a Sunni-Shiite war in Iraq for the last four years, but anyone using the term "civil war" to describe the situation in Iraq is grossly misinformed in my book — I'm looking at you, Senator Obama.
During 2006, Iraq witnessed the appetizer course of what a civil war would look like, and Al Qaeda's Sunni shock troops lost their appetite; the Shiites would win easy in case of an escalation. In lieu of death squads and beheadings, Sunni-Shiite tensions now run through the legal channels of parliament and how ministerial posts are allocated. Politics have been reintroduced into Iraqi life, and it's only natural that an issue as thorny and still unresolved as sectarianism would be expressed through political machinations.
The main Sunni bloc withdrew from the government — so what? The worst threat they can administer is a noisy parliamentary opposition since the recourse to armed conflict is no longer an option. No Sunni politician can ask his constituency to carry arms against the new Iraq since this was all they've been trying over the last four years and it ended with defeat.
Doesn't take much knowledge of the Middle East to grasp how Iraq differs from the others.
MORE:
Bush's new friends: The Sunnis: As plans to stabilize Iraqi politics go nowhere fast, experts warn that the latest U.S. tactics could lead to greater civil war (Mark Benjamin, Sept. 5, 2007, Salon)
The initiatives have had some tangible benefits for U.S. troops. Maj. Jeff Pool, a Marine public affairs officer in Anbar Province, said there had been 70 attacks on U.S. forces in Anbar the week before last -- down from 450 during a week from the same time period last year."Most of these guys had been shooting at us, so you are virtually certain to show a net gain whatever you do," said Frederick Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank. Kagan has also been a vocal supporter of the surge strategy.
But others analyzing the war worry that the United States is now training, organizing and empowering staunch foes of the Shiite-led central government. Even Lt. Col. Garver, the military spokesman, admitted that the U.S. initiative with the Sunnis has resulted in "some nervousness" among Shiite leaders in Baghdad.
"If what you are doing is strengthening these particular Sunni groups, and they are cooperating with us to get rid of al-Qaida, you give them guns and training," says Marc Lynch, a professor of political science at George Washington University. "Now they are in a better position to fight against the Shiites."
So we'll basically have to help the Shi'a put them down once they help us put al Qaeda down. Posted by Orrin Judd at September 5, 2007 8:14 AM
Hey, why doesn't Sunnistan get to have its own army when Iraq breaks up? Future Kurdistan and Shiistan (Iraq?) already do.
Posted by: b at September 5, 2007 12:07 PMWhy would the Shi'a allow a Sunnistan? Did the Christian Democrats allow a Nazistan?
Posted by: oj at September 5, 2007 2:57 PMSurely you're not claiming that "Sunni=Nazi" are you? Although I guess it is the natural corollary of your "Shiite=Perfect Angel" nonsense.
Germany's neighbors expelled all their Germans after WWII, quite sensibly. But they didn't exterminate them. We've already made clear that there's no way we're leaving Iraq completely even in the next 3-5 years, which means that the reason why the Shia will "allow a Sunnistan" in Anbar province is because we'll force them to.
Posted by: b at September 5, 2007 3:55 PMNo, ethnic Germans were at least a majority in Germany. The Sunni extremists are a fraction of Iraq yet think they should rule the vast majority.
We're not staying nor will we fight the Shi'a, because they'd win.
Posted by: oj at September 5, 2007 5:07 PMAll we need do now is kill Mookie, let the Shi'a know the country is theirs, and leave our troops on small bases in Sunni areas (just in case). The sheikhs should be OK with it, most of the Shi'a will quietly say thanks when Mookie is dead, and the government can lead where it will.
Kurdistan will grow quickly, and the other areas can either emulate or m*****bate, as they choose. Iraq can be South Korea, or it can be Lebanon.
Posted by: ratbert at September 5, 2007 5:24 PMI'm not quite sure where your hangup is on this. Sunnistan is going to be made up of the regions of Iraq where Sunnis are the majority. Their extremists won't get to rule the Shia, nor will the Shia get to rule the Sunni. Neither group pretends anymore that they're going to rule the Kurds, so we're mostly there.
And of course we're staying. No presidential candidate even thinks about proposing otherwise. Oh, they want to "begin redeployment" but not a one proposes an end number of zero. Shhh, don't tell the nutroots, though.
Posted by: b at September 5, 2007 5:27 PMExactly. That's why there won't be one. They're too small a minority to claim and maintain a state. The Shi'a can wipe them out and, thanks to historical grievances, needn't quibble about doing so.
Posted by: oj at September 5, 2007 7:10 PMIt's because the country is Sistani's that Mookie is safe and has been collaborating with us.
Posted by: oj at September 5, 2007 7:11 PMoj, if this is okay with you that, The Shi'a can wipe them out and, thanks to historical grievances, needn't quibble about doing so, why isn't it okay for the Serbs to do the same thing to the Moslems? Their historic grievances are no less grievous.
Posted by: erp at September 6, 2007 9:44 AMThe Serbs should have.
Posted by: oj at September 6, 2007 10:40 AM