But they had the will to win.

Did Macgregor serve in the German Army?

He must get his information exclusively from CNN.

Did Macgregor serve in the German Army?

He must get his information exclusively from CNN.

Those places over there are not nation-states as we think of them. They do things differently over in the jailhouse. Attempting to force their realities into our familiar categories simply doesn't work.

It looks as though wee are fighting everybody at once because everybody there is out of phase with our categories of how a state is supposed to work.

We're making them typical nation states--that's the point of the exercise.

It isn't the number of fronts. It's the number of objectives. If all the fronts serve the same objective, that's one thing. If they serve different objectives, you have a problem.

Oj: That's part of what most of us mean by reformation. The problem we face now is that the enemies domestic are hampering us from completing the reformation of the enemies foreign.

The folk-enemies and culture-traitors are so intent on not just discrediting Bush but discrediting conservatism and Christianity, that they are making peaceful reformation impossible.

Because of our strategic interests in the region and because of our hostage, Israel, we cannot just walk away. So once again, the peace-creeps will cause world war, bringing Armageddon, and once more bear blood-guily for the deaths of millions.

The domestic scene doesn't matter. Having unleashed the Shi'a they're creating nations post-haste. Democrats can't stop them.

Lou is right, we obviously have interests in the Middle East, mostly oil induced globalization.

We invaded to setup an ally thereby strengthening our ability to protect that interest. We called it WMD hunt, then WoT, and finally nation building but in the end they were all just pretext to as Fukuyama said, hitting them with a baseball bat to see what happens.

Well now we don't quite have an ally and we have a lot of Shia and Sunni running around blowing things up. But we may still get an ally and it may or may not be a Shia theocracy and it may or may not be a populat government.

We may still win by losing as we have in Vietnam because what comes out of Iraq over the next 20 years will likely be a much stronger ally than the one we tried to setup.

Our actions in Iraq will likely keep us strong for another century. It took either an idiot or a genius in President Bush to take the action, I don't know which but I don't think it matters.

We don't need allies. The people of the Middle East need their own coherent nations. Alliances will follow.