November 11, 2004

GO WHERE YOU FEEL WELCOME (via Robert Schwartz):

Some Say U.S. No Longer Feels Like Home: With Bush's Re-Election, Foreign Countries Look Better to Them (DEAN SCHABNER, Nov. 9, 2004, ABC News)

Leora Dowling and her husband thought returning from deep in "red" America to her native New England would make them feel more comfortable, more like the people around them shared their values. Since the election, she's been contemplating another move. To Italy.

"After the election, my husband and I asked ourselves, 'How could our country be heading backward? How could so many people miss or choose to ignore the obvious failures of the Bush administration?'" the former Florida resident said.

President Bush pledged that one priority for his second term would be to heal the wounds that a bitter election -- in which groups not formally connected to each candidate ran attack ads focused on character, not issues -- seems to have opened for many Americans.

Dowling, a college professor who lives with her husband in Vermont, is not alone in feeling that the wounds cannot be healed, or at least that Bush is not the man to do it.

For Dowling, as for others who ABCNews.com spoke with, though the immediate anger may be focused on the president -- whether because of the war in Iraq, his stance on same-sex weddings, what they say is his blurring of the line between church and state, or his championing of the Patriot Act -- there is a broader concern. They say they feel the United States is changing in ways they do not like, and they feel powerless to stop it.

"We were leaving anyhow, mostly because we want to start a family and we don't feel our children can get a decent education in the United States," said Brian Sinicki, of Laramie, Wyo.


As Mr. Schwartz points out, they're easily enough replaced with Mexican-Catholic immigrants.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 11, 2004 12:37 PM
Comments

Dowling, a college professor who lives with her husband in Vermont...

Anybody NOT see that one coming?

Posted by: Matt Murphy at November 11, 2004 12:40 PM

Did a google search, but couldn't figure out which college it was. Not that it matters.

Posted by: Governor Breck at November 11, 2004 12:52 PM

She probably teaches Applied Kiln or some other such nonsense at a high-priced small liberal arts college that can't be bothered with trivia like web sites. The choice of Italy, where the population is overwhelmingly opposed to same sex marriage and the Minister for Education recently tried to add creationism to the school science texts, is a curious one.

Posted by: Bart at November 11, 2004 1:06 PM

They were powerless to accelerate the debauch. Callow, fey, and feckless, their bloated sense of entitlement punctured, they whine into the sunset. Faster, please.

Posted by: luciferous at November 11, 2004 1:09 PM

I don't recall conservatives (or GOPers) saying they were going to leave the country when they were losing elections.

And if these people want to leave the US, one of the freeist and richest countries around, to go to some European country with much higher unemployment and problems with immigration then so be it.

Slightly OT - saw elsewhere that Vincent Donofrio, star of Law and Order Criminal Intent, is a big Kerry supporter and is so devastated by Kerry's loss that he hasn't been able to act and may (if it continues) end up getting bounced from the show.

Posted by: AWW at November 11, 2004 1:15 PM

...and Brian Sinicki is forced to go to a country where his children's education will not be controlled by the NEA.

Posted by: ed at November 11, 2004 1:17 PM

How much you want to bet that any of these people who do leave will turn up again in a future news article about expats voting to remove the awful red state regime?

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 11, 2004 1:17 PM

Slightly OT - saw elsewhere that Vincent Donofrio, star of Law and Order Criminal Intent, is a big Kerry supporter and is so devastated by Kerry's loss that he hasn't been able to act

What was his excuse before?

Posted by: AC at November 11, 2004 1:41 PM

She'll love Italy:

Italians largely oppose gay marriage with 61 percent rejecting homosexual wedlock and even more opposed to adoption for same-sex couples, a poll on Sunday showed.

In traditionally Roman Catholic Italy, home to the Vatican, only 32 percent of the population is favorable to gay marriage, according to a survey carried out for la Repubblica newspaper.

Only 21 percent of Italians thought a homosexual couple should be allowed to adopt a child.

Posted by: Jim at November 11, 2004 2:46 PM

As Will Rogers said about the exodus from Oklahoma to Calfornia in the 1930's:

"Raised the IQ in both places."

Posted by: Jeff at November 11, 2004 2:52 PM

AWW:

Here's a link to the story (via Jonah Goldberg at The Corner. It seems Mr. D'Onofrio actually passed out on set, and one source (who is contradicted by a show rep) says he's been getting into fistfights with people.

Boy, I hate to hear this news -- I think D'Onofrio is a terrific actor. He sounds like a Grade-A jackass, however -- a source tells Page Six that nobody even speaks to him anymore.

And note that the show's creator excuses D'Onofrio's behavior because of all the stress he's under. You think Ronald Reagan ever treated his costars like that when he was in Hollywood?

Posted by: Matt Murphy at November 11, 2004 4:43 PM

Ho hum. Didn't I hear all this before from the Usual Suspects in 2000?

Posted by: Joe at November 11, 2004 6:41 PM

It's remarkable how much worse things get when a Republican is re-elected President than when a Democrat is. Witness this excerpt from the same article:

"'We were leaving anyhow, mostly because we want to start a family and we don't feel our children can get a decent education in the United States,' said Brian Sinicki, of Laramie, Wyo."

"He said America's schools fail children by not teaching subjects like philosophy and civics, subjects that he said would give Americans not only a deeper understanding of the world, but an appreciation for why they should be more actively involved in the political process, not only voting but staying informed.

He also criticized the media, and television in particular, for the way news is covered."

Of course, the schools were ever so much better when Bill Clinton was president.

Inclusion of this quote in this piece demonstrates yet again the MSM's willingness to lie to shape their own agenda. Quite obviously, the article is intended to damn the President because of those who claim they are leaving the USA because of him. Well, Mr. Sinicki's reasons have nothing to do with the president, at least as far as I understand them.

Posted by: Morrie at November 11, 2004 7:21 PM
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