October 29, 2004


We Are All Floridians Now (Douglas Kern, 10/29/2004 , Tech Central Station)

The 2004 presidential election is shaping up to be uglier than an octogenarian stripper convention. Look for intimidation, blatant vote fraud, bureaucratic incompetence, judicial shenanigans, and the promise of an ugly, heavily litigated November - and that's just at my house.

It's grotesque. Chaotic. Undignified.

It's just the way we like it.

The tumult that Florida suffered in 2000 was no fluke. Florida's electoral imbroglio was the perfect political storm -- a confluence of bad faith, aggressive lawyers, shabby laws, faulty procedures, and arrogant judges. And it will happen again, because no one has an interest in fixing the problem.

The decline of the Democrats into permanent minority status will take care of most of these problems, as elections become more uneven. For instance, just two years after the Florida debacle Republicans swept the state elections of 2002 and the President is going to win by such a wide margin there this time that there will be no recounts.

Posted by Orrin Judd at October 29, 2004 9:00 AM

I hope you guys have a direct line to the big guy in the sky.

Posted by: erp at October 29, 2004 9:03 AM

I don't know about a direct line to God, but I'm not taking any chances. I moved to Florida 3 weeks ago, uprooting myself from a safe red state to move to the panhandle to vote for the president. I am also volunteering today to (wo)man the phone banks. When people say the president's base is more energized, they have no idea. Would anyone move across the street to put Kerry in office?

Posted by: Melissa at October 29, 2004 9:20 AM

Melissa: Thanks for the assist, but if your things are still in boxes it looks like GWB needs you more in Ohio. If we lose Ohio, we lose.

Posted by: curt at October 29, 2004 10:04 AM

...unless GWB wins Wisconsin, Iowa and/or Minnesota.

Posted by: John at October 29, 2004 10:17 AM

Whoever wins this election, I wonder if events will make it the last one the Democrats can steal. The fraud---thousands of new "voters" with non-existant addresses, cities with 300,000 registered voters requesting 900,000 ballots, open invitations for Illinois residents to register and vote in Michigan, etc.---is so blantantly obvious that nobody even bothers to deny it.

Just as Congress passed "motor voter" a few years ago, they could enact a "picture ID required to vote" law. You have to show a picture ID to board a plane, why not to vote?

When/if this happens, the Democrat vote totals are going to crash.

Posted by: fred at October 29, 2004 10:24 AM

Thanks for seeing the glass half empty, Curt.

Posted by: Melissa at October 29, 2004 10:30 AM


A wonderful idea, but it might take another terror attack to "spine" up the GOP to pass it.

And what would the Court say?

Posted by: jim hamlen at October 29, 2004 10:32 AM

In Arizona this year there is a ballot proposition (Proposition 200) which would require proof of citizenship and ID to vote or receive benefits from any public assistance program. The objections have been the expected liberal hysterical mantra:
1) it discriminates against minorites (Hispanics or Latinos or whatever the current term is -- I just can't keep up);
2) it would prevent firefighters and EMTs from treating emergency cases (untrue, as far as I can determine);
3) it is financed, at least in part, by out-of-state money (horrors!!! this doesn't happen anywhere else and must be evil, just ask Tom Daschle);
4) it turns state and county employees into evil government agents because they are required to report any violation (funny, I thought this was their duty);
5) it imposes millions in cost to train employees to check and recognize fraudulent IDs (yes, such costs have driven 7-11 into bankruptcy);
6) it adds nothing not already covered by existing laws (which are currently unenforced -- and if true, then what is the problem?)
7) and the ultimate straw-man -- it does nothing to solve the illegal immigration problem (as if this were the purpose -- of course, this implicitly admits there is a problem).
Despite all the hysteria, I suspect this may pass, and then will be tied up in the courts for years and eventually overturned on some technicality.

Posted by: jd watson at October 29, 2004 11:17 AM

As George Carlin pointed out, the glass is too big. And if you really know your wine, you know the glass has been properly filled.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at October 29, 2004 12:49 PM

In Kentucky we must show a picture ID (drivers license) in order to be able to vote.

Posted by: Bartman at October 29, 2004 1:15 PM

The decline of the Democrats into permanent minority status will take care of most of these problems...

All the more reason for Our Anointed Betters to seize power NOW, while they still can.

"There is no right, no wrong. There is only Power, and those who are too weak to use it."
-- Voldemort

Posted by: Ken at October 29, 2004 4:43 PM