March 15, 2004
THE NEXT AMERICAN NOBELIST:
"Live" with TAE: Bill James: He is the guru who invented a whole new way for Americans to partake of the national pastime from their reading chairs. More recently he has gone to work in the major leagues to see if he can translate his baseball theories into wins on the field. Meet an American sporting icon. (Tim Rives, March/April 2004, American Enterprise)
Bill James has been called "the most influential baseball writer in the sport's history." In a sport shrouded in myth, James's success is itself the stuff of legend. Thirty years ago, while working in the boiler room of a pork and beans cannery in Lawrence, Kansas, James produced a series of self-published Baseball Abstracts, which analyzed the game and its players with wit, irreverence, and the orthodoxy-smashing use of statistics. (Using James's logic, bunting, stealing, and the use of a bullpen "closer" are sucker's plays.)The Abstracts attracted a cult following, then major publishers, and eventually a wide readership that included, among others, future Boston Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein.
Michael Lewis's recent bestseller, Moneyball, described how the Oakland A's have used the insights of James and his fellow "sabermetricians" to outfox far wealthier teams. Last season, after years of writing his mordantly erudite fan notes, Bill James left the bleachers and joined the game as a senior baseball operations adviser for the Boston Red Sox.
Kansas historian Tim Rives interviewed Bill James at the Emerson Biggins sports bar in Lawrence, Kansas.
TAE: Just what does a so-called "sabermetrician" do?
JAMES: The human mind searches for order in everything it perceives. What a sabermetrician does is search for order and patterns--objective proof--on questions that are debated by baseball people. Sabermetrics starts with the question, "What are the characteristics of winning teams?" and then moves to "Why are these things characteristics of winning teams?"
We take an historical approach to the game. Because baseball is inherently meaningless, its history is more clear and less clouded than the history of things that are meaningful.
And we rely heavily on statistics (though no good analysis in any sport is driven solely by statistics). I've tried for 25 years to keep sabermetrics from being taken over by the bad habits of academicians--overspecialization, discussing issues that are of interest only to other academics, and discussing them in a manner which is inaccessible to anyone who hasn't been following the discussion for years. [...]
TAE: Was Babe Ruth the finest player in the history of the majors?
JAMES: Yes. Mays may have been as good, Honus Wagner may have been as good, Bonds may be as good. But Ruth had more impact.
Would anyone start Bonds over Ted Williams? Posted by Orrin Judd at March 15, 2004 5:50 PM
I would...in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Bartman at March 15, 2004 5:58 PMWith or without steroids?
Posted by: brian at March 15, 2004 6:32 PM"Baseball is inherently meaningless"? I mean, I understand his point, but still.
Posted by: MG2 at March 15, 2004 6:37 PMBaseball *is* inherently meaningless, especially after the cancellation of the world series, lo this (almost) decade ago. Football is America's reigning professional sport, and should be for decades to come. Baseball lacks the subtlety, violence, cohesion and action of football. Additionally, watching baseball is slightly less interesting than watching farming.
Posted by: The Irrationalist at March 16, 2004 2:25 AM> watching baseball is slightly less
> interesting than watching farming.
Maybe, but it still beats watching golf by quite a few miles!
Posted by: at March 16, 2004 3:11 AM"I advocate a Constitutional amendment against playing soccer."
I smell fear.
Posted by: M Ali Choudhury at March 16, 2004 6:04 AMAmerican football is subtle?
Relative to rugby, perhaps....
American football's about as subtle as watching a two rows of sofas crashing into each other. The only American sports worth a damn are basketball, ice hockey and pro wrestling. The rest are eminently disposable.
Posted by: M Ali Choudhury at March 16, 2004 8:39 AMThis is the second time this slander has popped up recently. Ice hockey is not an American sport(and don't give me that "we mean the continent" excuse. We all know what "American" means).
Posted by: David Cohen at March 16, 2004 8:49 AMOK, the list goes down to two worthwhile athletic pursuits which originated in America.
Actually I think only pro wrestling qualifies since basketball is only good for highlight reels and as an extended advert for overpriced shoes.
Posted by: M Ali Choudhury at March 16, 2004 10:42 AMIce hockey on television draws fewer viewers than bowling or professional poker.
Posted by: Michael Herdegen at March 17, 2004 2:05 AMTed Williams was a mediocre fielder - Bonds is (was) much better. Both had nasty, detached temperaments. Both feuded with teammates. Both struggled in post-season play (although Bonds had a great 2003 run). Both played for good teams that did not make the post-season very often. Ted was a war hero.
Pick 'em.
Posted by: jim hamlen at March 17, 2004 1:53 PM