November 27, 2003
WRONG VICTIM:
Schwarzenegger Paroles Woman Who Killed Her Husband's Mistress (The Associated Press, 11/27/03)
Arnold Schwarzenegger has agreed to parole a woman who killed her husband's mistress in 1987, the second time in a week the newly elected governor has granted the release of a convicted murderer.Schwarzenegger's decision Wednesday marks a departure from former Gov. Gray Davis, who during his five years repeatedly refused to grant paroles approved by the state's Board of Prison Terms. [...]
Schwarzenegger did not comment on his decision to parole Munoz, a 51-year-old mother of three who was convicted in 1989 of killing her husband's lover in Los Angeles.
The board's approval of Munoz's parole was based on her apparent remorse for the killing, psychological evaluations that showed a slim chance of her offending again and her efforts to raise money for the victim's daughter by selling portraits, said board spokesman Bill Sessa.
It's her husband she should have whacked. Posted by Orrin Judd at November 27, 2003 6:31 PM
Why? Are women less responsible for their actions than men?
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 27, 2003 7:26 PMYou're missing Orrin's point (when it comes to social and sexual issues, that's so frequent as to hardly be worth commenting on :) ). What he means is that the husband, presumably the instigator of the adulterous affair, was the primary offender against Mrs. Munoz. It's not that the mistress was any less responsible, it's that the husband was most to blame. I wouldn't go so far as to echo Orrin's opinion that he's the one who should have been shot, but certainly he's the one who should have received the lion's share of the opprobium.
Posted by: Joe at November 27, 2003 10:25 PMJeff:
What vow did she break and who did she betray?
Posted by: Peter B at November 28, 2003 6:04 AMJoe:
Why is the husband presumably the instigator? You make the same, automatic, assumption OJ did here. It is certainly well within the realm of reason (and my experience, three times--while I was still single--married women attempted to instigate affairs with me) for a woman to initiate such a thing. If she did, then the responsibility balance changes, doesn't it?
Unless you view women as passive victims, then you pretty much have to award them equal responsibility--and blame--for any act in which they are a willing participant.
Peter:
She aided and abetted the husband in betraying the wife.
You are a lawyer. How does the law treat co-conspirators?
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 28, 2003 9:58 AMJeff:
You are a boon to wayward husbands. "Honey, I done you wrong, but I wasn't the instigator. Let's blame her and move on."
Posted by: Peter B at November 28, 2003 10:35 AMI dimly remember from my criminal law class a lengthy discussion about "battered wife syndrome," some sort of "temporary mental illness" that causes women to shoot adulterous husbands.
"Temporary mental illness" being feminist-lawyer-babble for "the SOB needed killin', but we're too squeamish to say so."
Modern law can't make up its mind whether women are delicate wilting flowers that are victimized by everything and can't be held responsible for their actions lashing out against the patriarchy, or whether they're just men in skirts because gender is a mere social construct.
Posted by: Random Lawyer at November 28, 2003 11:03 AMRandom:
The law can't make up its mind because we can't either and never could.
An observant Jewish friend once told me that some of the ancient Hebrew versions of Genecis can best be translated as "And G-d created woman to oppose man." I have no idea if he is right, but it would explain a lot if he were.
Posted by: Peter B at November 28, 2003 11:21 AMPeter B: The law can't make up its mind because both of those propositions (i.e., women are oppressed and therefore irresponsible, and women are interchangeable with men) are nuts.
BTW, a supportive press release on the lady in question from her previous parole hearing in July. Apparently her supporters think her case looks better if she was trying to kill her husband rather than his paramour.
http://freebatteredwomen.org/munozarticle1.htm
Posted by: Random Lawyer at November 28, 2003 11:34 AMI wonder if Orrin supports whacking people who don't fulfilll their pledges to, say, United Way.
Posted by: Harry Eagar at November 28, 2003 1:14 PMOrrin, opinions like yours are why the Europeans hate us so much (especially the French). Wives whacking their wayward husbands? Who would be left to take care of their elderly parents when the a/c goes out?
Posted by: Robert D at November 28, 2003 1:21 PMHarry:
United Way pledges are comparable to wedding vows in your mind?
Posted by: oj at November 28, 2003 1:21 PMHarry-
A distinction without a difference?
Posted by: Tom C., Stamford,Ct. at November 28, 2003 2:10 PMThere was a film entitled (I think) "As Good as it Gets" starring Jack Nicholson, in which he plays a popular, but curmodgeonly, author. At one point in the film, a starry-eyed intern working for his publisher asks: "How do you write such convincing female characters?"
His acidic reply: "I write a male character, then remove all accountability."
Women are capable of causing all sorts of relationship mayhem, which is why they view each other as their most fearsome threats.
Posted by: Jeff Guinn at November 28, 2003 4:39 PMOh, only whack 'em if the pledge is for over, say, $1,000?
It isn't the pledger's honor that counts, only the subject pledged?
If so, why bother?
Posted by: Harry Eagar at November 29, 2003 3:45 PMNo, the pledge doesn't matter, period. Unless they swore to God that they'd fulfill it. Then it's okay to whack them.
Posted by: oj at November 29, 2003 4:06 PMHarry:
Maybe you are right and they are the same. I guess that's why we see so many gripping murder mysteries based upon the tragedy of people who renege on their charitable pledges.
Posted by: Peter B at November 29, 2003 8:34 PM"Modern law can't make up its mind whether women are delicate wilting flowers that are victimized by everything and can't be held responsible for their actions lashing out against the patriarchy, or whether they're just men in skirts because gender is a mere social construct."
When you realize that feminists can play either card depending on the situation, you will understand their complete intellectual vacuity.
Posted by: Robert Schwartz at December 1, 2003 2:48 AMGood thing for his economic adviser, who is living in sin with a woman not his wife, although he has a wife, that Arnie is not Orrin, nor Orrin Arnie.
Posted by: Harry Eagar at December 1, 2003 7:36 PM