November 22, 2002
CHANNELING HOWELL RAINES:
Nigerian Miss World show cancelled
(BBC, 23 November, 2002)
The Miss World contest is moving to London from Nigeria after riots by Muslim youths opposed to the show left more than 100 people dead in the city of Kaduna. [...]
Hundreds of Muslim youths went on the rampage following Friday prayers, in an echo of the bloodshed which left at least 100 people dead and 500 injured in Kaduna this week.
Here's how this story will read in the Times tomorrow: "Hundreds of Nigerian youths, angered by anti-Muslim remarks made by the Reverends Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, rampaged through the streets of Kaduna attacking the Reverends' co-religionists."
Posted by Orrin Judd at November 22, 2002 10:15 PM
So, Orrin, do you still believe Moslems do not
If they did, how would their behavior be
different than it is?
We don't worship Mohammed Harry (he was just a man after all), but we tend to be very, very, touchy when someone is perceived to have insulted him.
Checked the Times today.
Didn't mention Falwell or Robertson.
Although whoever reviews movies couldn't stop praising Michael Moore.
To be perfectly frank, I almost admire the seriousness of purpose that leads to things like the fatwa against Rushdie. But you can't just start killing people willy-nilly.
Well it is Nigeria.
Fighting between Christians and Muslims seems to be the national sport.
yeah, but what's the difference between
worship and reverence? Spell it out.
It's a distinction without a difference.
As I said before, the reaction to dissing other
Koranic prophets (Jesus, for example, as
AOG just pointed out) is not in the same league,
Catholics claim not to worship Mary, too, but
nobody believes them.
Well yeah, I'd say it makes it very difficult for artists and others to give their interpretation of Muhammad like they do with Jesus Christ.
For instance I doubt anyone would be able to put on a play like Corpus Christi featuring Prophet Muhammad or whether Ofori (a British Nigerian I think) could do a similar project like Holy Virgin Mary without putting his life in danger.
I'm not sure about products like He'Brew. Most Islamic religious paraphenalia is relentlessly earnest and serious and I've yet to see anyone sell products based on a more tongue-in-cheek attitude.
When it comes to worship and reverence I guess the key difference is that Muslims pray to God and God alone.
Whereas Christianity seems based on accepting Christ as your saviour and he seems to have a greater importance than the Creator Himself.
No one carves little Mohammed statuettes, puts them in mosques and prays to them.
Anyway I can't say my answers are in any way complete since what I don't know about Islam would fill a library.
In the interest of saving lives, football announcers should now think twice before they announce that some QB has just thrown up a "Hail Mary"....
Ofili. The claim was that some tribe in Nigeria
reverenced elephant dung, although no one
could ever identify that group.
Ofili is a fraud.
Christians consider Jesus an equal part of the ]
godhead, not inferior to the creator.
The famous anthropologists from Mars do not
consider Christianity a true monotheism, the
stuff about the Trinity is just a trick of words,
and Mary is equally worshipped by most
Catholics. I know, I was raised that way
Equally, the actual behavior of Muslims, seen
from outside, does not allow detection of a
difference between Allah and Mohammed
as far as worship goes; unlike the obvious
differences between one prophet, Mohammed,
and all the rest.
It is a difference of quality, not merely of
It is not profitable to worry about religious
hairsplitting. I know the distinction between
homoousion and homoiousion, but there is
no reality to it.
Religion is what religious people do, not what
they say they think.