June 24, 2008

SO ISN'T IT FAIR TO STATE WHAT FOLLOWS FROM THIS LOGIC?;

Surge Protection (Joe Klein, 6/24/08, TIME)

The notion that we could just waltz in and inject democracy into an extremely complicated, devout and ancient culture smacked--still smacks--of neocolonialist legerdemain. The fact that a great many Jewish neoconservatives--people like Joe Lieberman and the crowd over at Commentary--plumped for this war, and now for an even more foolish assault on Iran, raised the question of divided loyalties: using U.S. military power, U.S. lives and money, to make the world safe for Israel.

That those who opposed the war are enemies of Israel?

Posted by Orrin Judd at June 24, 2008 8:37 PM

Extend the logic: enemies of my enemies are my friends. Thus they are friends of Palestinians, friends of Hamas, Palestinians' elected officials, friends of jihadists.

Posted by: ic at June 24, 2008 8:59 PM

Klein isn't dumb - he knows how vulnerable the Dems are on this issue, so he's laying down suppressing fire. It's messy, but he probably thinks it is necessary.

Posted by: ratbert at June 24, 2008 9:48 PM

I knew when Rumsfeld was going on and on about waltzing in and injecting that it was doomed, DOOMED!

Posted by: Jorge Curioso at June 25, 2008 12:29 AM

The Jews would prefer that Saddam get out of Kuwait.

Therefore, the war to liberate Kuwait be bad.

The Jews would prefer that Milosevic not slaughter Bosnians, Kosovars, Hercegovnians, Croatians, you-name-it-ians.

Therefore, Milosevic be good.

The Jews would prefer that Saddam not threaten his neighbors, not rape his country, not gas Kurds, not decimate Shias, not encourage terrorism against the Jewish State, not make Iraq his family's personal fiefdom, not terrorize Iraqis.

Therefore, Saddam be perfectly acceptable, thank you very much.

The Jews would prefer that Sudan not murder and rape ten of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of Darfurians.

But they be Zionist plotters, trying to distract world attention from the real outrage committed against the Palestinians.

The Jews would prefer that Palestinians somehow learn to value their own lives and accept the Jewish State.

Therefore peace in the middle east be bad.

The Jews would prefer that Iran not threaten to annihilate Israel, not threaten to attack Europe, not threaten to attack America, not fund international terror, not destroy the Iranian Bahai community, not train and fund Hezbullah, Hamas, and Syria, not terrorize their own citizenry.

Therefore, the mullahs deserve our unmitigated support.

(Who do those f**** Jews think they are, anyway?)

Yes, Jews are very useful in establishing one's worldview.

Posted by: Barry Meislin at June 25, 2008 3:31 AM

Let us look at the question from the broader perspective of American interest in winning the great game, that is dominating the choke points and stategic resources of the heartland of the world island.

Great Britain once played the role of holder of world power in the region, but it bacame necessary for us to step in as Britain receded.

The article makes the common error of looking at the pretext and not the purpose of our middle eastern policy. Israel is an important ally. We have deep cultural affinities binding us to her, but Israel is not why we assert our power. Rather Israel is the pretext for our lordship of the region.

Without Israel, we would long ago have tired of the great game, and wouod have abandoned our interests to the seductions of isoltioism and pacifism.

Posted by: Lou Gots at June 25, 2008 4:17 AM

Except it was always a mistake to think the game Great. It's just a game.

Posted by: oj at June 25, 2008 6:40 AM

The sad thing is that Klein is at the same low point as Gore Vidal was in 1986; when he issued his 'double loyalty screed' and his comparison of Decter and Podhoretz, to the collaborationist
"Naumanns". congratulations, Joe.

Posted by: narciso at June 25, 2008 9:40 AM

This sort of commentary is standard fare at Angry Left websites like Kos and Democratic Underground, and in the fever swamps where Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan and Pat Buchanan dwell.

Joe Klein is an A-list journalist writing for an A-list publication. I confidently predict he will not be fired, disciplined, or even seriously critiqued by anyone at Time for writing like a Julius Streicher wannabee. There will not be any condemnation of him from pundits at one of the other A-list publications. He is at no risk of being named a Keith Olbermann 'World's Worst Person.' That's bothersome enough.

What's even more disquieting is to scroll down to the comments and see just how many readers applaud Klein's willingness to "speak openly" about the Jewish-neocon conspiracy. (There's also quite a bit of pushback, to be fair.)

Posted by: Mike Morley at June 25, 2008 10:17 AM

A world that is safe for Israel is, coincedently, a world that is safe for the United States. They are the canary in the coal mine.

Posted by: Mikey at June 25, 2008 11:06 AM

I don't get it. What's wrong with dual loyalty (or multiple loyalties)? We wouldn't have fought WWI & WWII if Wilson and FDR weren't loyal to Britain.


Isn't the question here: what kind of American isn't loyal to Israel? The answer, of course, is mainly seculars.

Posted by: oj at June 25, 2008 11:21 AM

Mikey:

Sadly it's the secular demographic coalmine and the bird doesn't have long. The last Jews will live in America, not Israel.

Posted by: oj at June 25, 2008 3:32 PM
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