March 12, 2008

NATIVISTS VS THE AMERICAN ECONOMY:

Tight US immigration forces outsourcing: Bill Gates (AFP, Mar 12, 2008)

US high-tech companies are being forced to outsource more jobs overseas because of outdated restrictions on immigration, Microsoft chairman Bill Gates told Congress Wednesday.

Gates, echoing a longstanding complaint from the technology sector, told a congressional panel that the US immigration system "makes attracting and retaining high-skilled immigrants exceptionally challenging for US firms."

"Congress's failure to pass high-skilled immigration reform has exacerbated an already grave situation," Gates said in remarks prepared for delivery to a hearing of the House of Representatives Science and Technology Committee.

"As a result, many US firms, including Microsoft, have been forced to locate staff in countries that welcome skilled foreign workers to do work that could otherwise have been done in the United States, if it were not for our counterproductive immigration policies."


Posted by Orrin Judd at March 12, 2008 11:08 AM
Comments

How about Bill ponies up more $$ to make the sons and daughters of us nativists more atractive to his robber baronial company?

Posted by: Jim Burke at March 12, 2008 1:44 PM

Natives are too lazy to be good employees.

Posted by: oj at March 12, 2008 2:10 PM

Why should only "high-skilled" immigrants get in?

Posted by: b at March 12, 2008 2:40 PM

Since 9/11 the world's best and brightest are no longer able to immigrate to the US without massive extra red-tape. So they stay home.

Posted by: Gideon at March 12, 2008 3:31 PM

No, No, No Gideon. You haven't been paying attention.

Everyone has the same easy path to the US...

The only reason we have so many from Mexico is that they are so close.

And, you are obviously a racist.

Posted by: Benny at March 12, 2008 3:59 PM

Only the high-skilled aren't. Luckily we can just export those jobs.

Posted by: oj at March 12, 2008 5:23 PM

Shortage Shouters

Bill Gates and employer organizations and spokespersons who maintain that America has a shortage of this or that kind of scientific or technical expertise are noted as “shortage shouters”. There are essentially three types of “shortage shouters”: Information Technology Association of America (ITAA), Indian-owned National Association of Software and Service Companies (NASSCOM), and American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA).

It’s easy to understand why AILA cies, “Shortage!” The more immigrants, the more work for immigration lawyers, and the more legal fees. NAASCOM? Well, if you follow financial news, you know that India is the nation to which so much American information of so many of the workers coming here to replace American workers.
How about ITAA? Don’t they know whether or not their member companies have shortages of technical workers? Yes and no. Yes, they know whether or not there are shortages and, generally speaking…no, there are not. What do I mean by “generally speaking?” Well, at any given instant for any given high-tech company, there may be a shortage of this or that given expertise or knowledge or experience within that company. Does that mean there is no person in America qualified to fill that position? Again, in general, the answer is: There is probably someone, somewhere in America who could fill that position. Whether that person wants to fill that position at the price the position holding company is willing to pay is a separate issue.

The high tech industry, at times, goes through high tech boom and bust cycles. During high tech booms, there may be a legitimate need for companies to bring in high-tech employees to America to fill those occasional, temporary vacuums. That is precisely what Congress did when it instituted the H-1B visa. This was supposed to be a temporary visa designed to meet temporary needs. Of course, employers who used such temporary workers soon found a permanent competitive advantage to using workers willing to work for from 25% less (according to an Immigration and Naturalization Services study) to 33% less (according to a University of California at Los Angeles). So, the employers become addicted to low-paid high tech workers and ITAA, NASSCOM, and AILA become “shortage shouters” and pushers of America’s addiction to population growth.

Remember: There is nothing more permanent than temporary workers. They hardly ever go back home.

Posted by: zeezil at March 12, 2008 11:34 PM

Thankfully.

Posted by: oj at March 13, 2008 6:14 AM

I listened to Bill Gates talk about this on NPR yesterday and, to my amazement, found his argument to be completely convincing. You can't create the kind of people Microsoft is looking for by throwing more money at them, any more than you could create a Michaelangelo or Da Vinci by spending enough money. There is a limited supply of these people, and 60% of that supply in US Universities are non-US citizens. There simply aren't enough US citizen bodies to hire for the jobs Microsoft has. Then, there are the 4 or 5 jobs for support people surrounding this star coder which don't get filled, and those jobs could certainly be filled by US citizens. True, this is just Microsoft, but Gates' arguments were devastating. Restricting the hiring of highly talented foreigners ends up in a net reduction of US citizen jobs at Microsoft.

Posted by: BrianOfAtlanta at March 13, 2008 7:16 AM

They don't go home. Hmmm. Wonder why?

Posted by: erp at March 13, 2008 8:23 AM

Don’t believe one optimistic word from any public figure about the economy or humanity in general. They are all part of the problem. Its like a game of Monopoly. In America, the richest 1% now hold 1/2 OF ALL UNITED STATES WEALTH. Unlike ‘lesser’ estimates, this includes all stocks, bonds, cash, and material assets held by America’s richest 1%. Even that filthy pig Oprah acknowledged that it was at about 50% in 2006. Naturally, she put her own ‘humanitarian’ spin on it. Calling attention to her own ‘good will’. WHAT A DISGUSTING HYPOCRITE SLOB. THE RICHEST 1% HAVE LITERALLY MADE WORLD PROSPERITY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. Don’t fall for any of their ‘humanitarian’ CRAP. ITS A SHAM. THESE PEOPLE ARE CAUSING THE SAME PROBLEMS THEY PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT. Ask any professor of economics. Money does not grow on trees. The government can’t just print up more on a whim. At any given time, there is a relative limit to the wealth within ANY economy of ANY size. So when too much wealth accumulates at the top, the middle class slip further into debt and the lower class further into poverty. A similar rule applies worldwide. The world’s richest 1% now own over 40% of ALL WORLD WEALTH. This is EVEN AFTER you account for all of this ‘good will’ ‘humanitarian’ BS from celebrities and executives. ITS A SHAM. As they get richer and richer, less wealth is left circulating beneath them. This is the single greatest underlying cause for the current US recession. The middle class can no longer afford to sustain their share of the economy. Their wealth has been gradually transfered to the richest 1%. One way or another, we suffer because of their incredible greed. We are talking about TRILLIONS of dollars. Transfered FROM US TO THEM. Over a period of about 27 years. Thats Reaganomics for you. The wealth does not ‘trickle down’ as we were told it would. It just accumulates at the top. Shrinking the middle class and expanding the lower class. Causing a domino effect of socio-economic problems. But the rich will never stop. They just keep getting richer. Leaving even less of the pie for the other 99% of us to share. At the same time, they throw back a few tax deductible crumbs and call themselves ‘humanitarians’. Cashing in on the PR and getting even richer the following year. IT CAN’T WORK THIS WAY. Their bogus efforts to make the world a better place can not possibly succeed. Any 'humanitarian' progress made in one area will be lost in another. EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK THIS WAY. This is going to end just like a game of Monopoly. The current US recession will drag on for years and lead into the worst US depression of all time. The richest 1% will live like royalty while the rest of us fight over jobs, food, and gasoline. So don’t fall for any of this PR CRAP from Hollywood, Pro Sports, and Wall Street PIGS. ITS A SHAM. Remember: They are filthy rich EVEN AFTER their tax deductible contributions. Greedy pigs. Now, we are headed for the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time. Crime, poverty, and suicide will skyrocket. SEND A “THANK YOU” NOTE TO YOUR FAVORITE MILLIONAIRE. ITS THEIR FAULT. I’m not discounting other factors like China, sub-prime, or gas prices. But all of those factors combined still pale in comparison to that HUGE transfer of wealth to the rich. Anyway, those other factors are all related and further aggrivated because of GREED. If it weren’t for the OBSCENE distribution of wealth within our country, there never would have been such a market for sub-prime to begin with. Which by the way, was another trick whipped up by greedy bankers and executives. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. The credit industry has been ENDORSED by people like Oprah, Ellen, Dr Phil, and many other celebrities. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. Now, there are commercial ties between nearly every industry and every public figure. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. So don’t fall for their ‘good will’ BS. ITS A LIE. If you fall for it, then you’re a fool. If you see any real difference between the moral character of a celebrity, politician, attorney, or executive, then you’re a fool.. WAKE UP PEOPLE. THEIR GOAL IS TO WIN THE GAME. The 1% club will always say or do whatever it takes to get as rich as possible. Without the slightest regard for anything or anyone but themselves. Reaganomics. Their idea. Loans from China. Their idea. NAFTA. Their idea. Outsourcing. Their idea. Sub-prime. Their idea. High energy prices. Their idea. The commercial lobbyist. Their idea. The multi-million dollar lawsuit. Their idea. The multi-million dollar endorsement. Their idea. $200 cell phone bills. Their idea. $200 basketball shoes. Their idea. $30 late fees. Their idea. $30 NSF fees. Their idea. $20 DVDs. Their idea. Subliminal advertising. Their idea. Brainwash plots on TV. Their idea. Prozac, Zanex, Vioxx, and Celebrex. Their idea. The MASSIVE campaign to turn every American into a brainwashed, credit card, pharmaceutical, love-sick, couch potatoe, celebrity junkie. Their idea. All of the above shrink the middle class, concentrate the world’s wealth and resources, create a dominoe effect of socio-economic problems, and wreak havok on society. All of which have been CREATED AND ENDORSED by celebrities, athletes, executives, entrepreneurs, attorneys, and politicians. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. So don’t fall for any of their ‘good will’ ‘humanitarian’ BS. ITS A SHAM. NOTHING BUT TAX DEDUCTIBLE PR CRAP. In many cases, the 'charitable' contribution is almost entirely offset.. Not to mention the opportunity to plug their name, image, product, and 'good will' all at once. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. These filthy pigs even have the nerve to throw a fit and spin up a misleading defense with regard to 'tax revenue'. ITS A SHAM. THEY SCREWED UP THE EQUATION TO BEGIN WITH. ITS THEIR OWN DAMN FAULT. If the middle and lower classes had a greater share of the pie, they could easily cover a greater share of the federal tax revenue. They are held down in many ways because of greed. Wages remain stagnant for millions because the executives, celebrities, athletes, attorneys, and entrepreneurs, are paid millions. They over-sell, over-charge, under-pay, outsource, cut jobs, and benefits to increase their bottom line. As their profits rise, so do the stock values. Which are owned primarily by the richest 5%. As more United States wealth rises to the top, the middle and lower classes inevitably suffer. This reduces the potential tax reveue drawn from those brackets. At the same time, it wreaks havok on middle and lower class communities and increases the need for financial aid. Not to mention the spike in crime because of it. There is a dominoe effect to consider. So when people forgive the rich for all of the above and then praise them for paying a greater share of the FEDERAL income taxes, its like nails on a chalk board. If these filthy pigs want to be over-paid, then they should be over-taxed as well. Remember: The richest 1% STILL own 1/2 of all United States wealth EVEN AFTER taxes, charity, and PR CRAP. A similar rule applies worldwide. There is nothing anyone can say to justify that. Anyway, there is usually a higher state and local burden on the middle and lower classes. They get little or nothing without a local tax increase. Otherwise, the red inks flows. Service cuts and lay-offs follow. Again, because of the OBSCENE distribution of bottom line wealth in this country. I can not accept any theory that our economy would suffer in any way with a more reasonable distribution of wealth. Afterall, it was more reasonable 30 years ago. Before Reaganomics came along. Before GREED became such an epidemic. Before we had an army of over-paid executives, celebrities, athletes, attorneys, investors, entrepreneurs, developers, and sold-out politicians to kiss their asses. As a nation, we were in much better shape. Lower crime rate, more widespread prosperity, stable job market, free and clear assets, lower deficit, ect. Our economy as a whole was much more stable and prosperous for the majority. WITHOUT LOANS FROM CHINA. Now, we have a more obscene distribution of bottom line wealth than ever before. We have a sold-out government, crumbling infrastructure, energy crisis, home forclosure epidemic, 13 figure national deficit, and 12 figure annual shortfall. The cost of living is higher than ever before. Most people can't even afford basic health care. ALL BECAUSE OF GREED. I really don't blame the 2nd -5th percentiles. No economy could ever function without some reasonable scale of personal wealth and income. But it can't be allowed to run wild like a mad dog. ALBERT EINSTEIN TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. UNBRIDLED CAPITALISM ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK. Bottom line: The richest 1% will soon tank the largest economy in the world. It will be like nothing we’ve ever seen before. and thats just the beginning. Greed will eventually tank every major economy in the world. Causing millions to suffer and die. Oprah, Angelina, Brad, Bono, and Bill are not part of the solution. They are part of the problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE HUMANITARIAN. EXTREME WEALTH MAKES WORLD PROSPERITY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. WITHOUT WORLD PROSPERITY, THERE WILL NEVER BE WORLD PEACE OR ANYTHING EVEN CLOSE. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL. Of course, the rich will throw a fit and call me a madman. Of course, they will jump to small minded conclusions about 'jealousy', 'envy', or 'socialism'. Of course, their ignorant fans will do the same. You have to expect that. But I speak the truth. If you don’t believe me, then copy this entry and run it by any professor of economics or socio-economics. Then tell a friend. Call the local radio station. Re-post this entry or put it in your own words. Be one of the first to predict the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time and explain its cause. WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.

Posted by: Truxter at March 13, 2008 5:47 PM

Well, now we know what the monkeys type until they come up with Hamlet....

Posted by: oj at March 13, 2008 10:31 PM

Truxter, Here's the crux of your problem:

Ask any professor of economics.

You'd be better off asking your bookie for financial and political advice. At least he's a capitalist.

Posted by: erp at March 14, 2008 7:45 AM

Actually, economics profs are an extraordinarily orthodox capitalist bunch, as note Krugman when he writes about economics instead of politics.

Posted by: oj at March 14, 2008 8:46 AM
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