January 6, 2008
RUDY WHO?:
NYPD's historic feat should quiet critics (Heather Mac Donald, January 6th 2008, NY Daily News)
New York City just ended 2007 with the lowest number of murders - below 500 - since 1963, the last year exact comparisons are possible.
Posted by Orrin Judd at January 6, 2008 4:06 PM
not fair. continued gains against crime are based on the CompStat system Rudy set up.
You can think his candidacy is a joke, but it's silly to pretend that Giuliani didn't revolutionize crime-fighting in NYC. The fact that he set up a system that continued to be effective after his two terms were up and not just one that was a force of his personality, are tributes to the man.
Posted by: Matt Cohen at January 6, 2008 6:40 PMThe system had no effect, declines were national.
Posted by: oj at January 6, 2008 8:22 PMEvery line in the article you cite except for the one you printed is dedicated to the idea that the New York crime drop is unmatched and is specifically due to NYPD police tactics.
I know that crime did drop nationally, but still not to the extent New York did I'm pretty sure. If 2 extra points of GDP growth are enough to condemn the European economy over, then 10 extra points or so of drop in murders in NYC over the national trend shouldn't be pooh-poohed.
Posted by: Matt Cohen at January 6, 2008 10:23 PMYes, to an even greater extent in many places. Why do you think there's talk off reducing crack sentences? NY rode the wave, it didn't create it.
Posted by: oj at January 7, 2008 7:40 AMisn't crime doing down in NYC even as the national trend has been a rise over the last few years?
Posted by: Matt Cohen at January 7, 2008 1:23 PMNote that the number in question is murders.
Posted by: oj at January 7, 2008 3:09 PM