January 3, 2008


So ends the Romney candidacy. Huckabee's already been declared the winner in IA.

Posted by Orrin Judd at January 3, 2008 9:02 PM

if huck had lost it would be over for him. romney has plenty of breathing room left, if, in fact, he ever had a candidacy to begin with. But, with that said, Romney is the only one who believes in his own manifest destiny. The rest of us know, deep down, that Romney just isn't gonna win. He's just too stupid, and too obviously without any real fundamental beliefs or core accomplishments. It sounds cliche, but isn't he the Republican version of Edwards.....It'll come down to the Maverick or the Mayor, 3 months from now. Huck is a protest vote, sort of like Dean was four years ago. You don't believe in Guliani because of your own manifest belief in the Maverick, but Maverick will speak out of turn and be his own worst enemy.

Posted by: neil at January 3, 2008 9:19 PM

Just got off the phone with my pro-life, non-denominational younger daughter. She sez if it's Huck vs. Hill in November, she will vote for Hill. If it's Huck vs. Obambi or Silky, she won't vote at all.

Sample of one.

Posted by: ghostcat at January 3, 2008 9:25 PM

Huck will get crushed by any Dem nominee if gets the GOP nod. Despite OJs manifest destiny belief McCain will get crushed by the Clinton machine or by the Obama "new generation" appeal. The GOP hold on the White House certainly looks pretty bleak right now.

Neil - Romney was elected Governor, ran the Olympics, and ran a very succesful financial firm. McCain has no executive experience and has all the baggage of a longtime Senator. As OJ likes to say Rudy only has 9-11 going for him.

Posted by: AWW at January 3, 2008 9:39 PM

No one who has higher negatives than positives wins.

Posted by: oj at January 3, 2008 10:29 PM


yes, I hear ya, but Romney was born with a silver spoon, and it shows. McCain is Dole redux, with slightly more charm, and war heroism. And, don't let Orrin's personal slant and humorous blind spots against everything New York City and "Coast Liberal related" cloud your understanding of the Mayor. He was an amazing mayor who got things done, 9/11 was the least of his accomplishments. Frankly, unlike most people, I don't really think he did anything extraordinary during 9/11. I wouldn't personally vote for him just based on 9/11.

Posted by: neil at January 3, 2008 10:37 PM

orrin, I appreciate your efficient historical objective knowledge of the facts, but like the stock market, they hold up until they don't. sox beat yankees four in a row after down 3-0. I joke about your east coast establishment negative bias, but appreciate the fact that the mayor might be an anomaly to logic and history.

Posted by: neil at January 3, 2008 11:06 PM

The problem for the Mayor, (and for Mitt), is that he is a Northeast liberal who does not play well in the Republican stronghold. He will make Red states purple, and Blue states bluer. Does anyone believe that Giuliani (or Romney) makes any of the Blue states more competitive in the general election? Does he even make NY (or Mass with Romney) more competitive?

Posted by: sam at January 3, 2008 11:52 PM

New Yorkers are suspect in the red states and Rudy is a quintessential New Yorker. He can't win the election, so why nominate him.

Posted by: erp at January 4, 2008 9:06 AM

If Rudy is the nominee, running against Hillary (or Edwards, or Obama), which "red" state will he lose? NM? IA? And which "blue" states could he win? PA? NJ? MN? WI? NY? CA?

Seems pretty simple to me.

Posted by: jim hamlen at January 4, 2008 10:09 AM

The Sox were better than the Yanks. The Mayor isn't a better candidate than Ron Paul.

Posted by: oj at January 4, 2008 11:31 AM