January 6, 2008


The winners: McCain and Obama (James Forsyth, 1/06/08, Spectator)

John McCain and Barack Obama won tonight’s debates here in New Hampshire not because of what they did but because of what others did for them. The mass Republican assault on Mitt Romney, which McCain joined in, ensured that McCain’s chief rival in the state left the debate bloodied and bruised.

At this point, the stars seem to be aligning for McCain in New Hampshire. If McCain does win here, the other candidates might regret doing him such a favour tonight as the momentum he gains might carry him all the way to the nomination—but you get the impression that the other candidates wouldn’t mind that too much.

Logic had little to do with the collective beating administered to Romney, who is no longer the front runner, tonight. In the spin room, surrogates for the other Republican candidates admitted that they all share a mutual dislike of the former Massachusetts governor.

Despite all the sniping in politics, such universal loathing isn't very common.

Posted by Orrin Judd at January 6, 2008 8:48 AM

what is it that everyone dislikes about him? I don't like his entitled attitude, but there is something else, not to mention, I've met Mormons in my life, and he is no Mormon....
can someone articulate what I cannot about this guy?

Posted by: neil at January 6, 2008 9:08 AM

He's unliked due to religious bigotry.

Posted by: Perry at January 6, 2008 10:01 AM

Too smart
Too handsome
Too rich
Too successful

Most people are willing to accept one but too petty/jealous to accept them all.

Posted by: Rick T. at January 6, 2008 12:00 PM

Too slick by half, yet not slick enough. You can tell while listening to him that he doesn't believe much of what he says. This is the perception most normal people have of most politicians, but with Romney it's an overwhelming smell.

Posted by: ted welter at January 6, 2008 12:12 PM

Too smart
Too handsome
Too rich
Too successful

Didn't all these apply to JFK? OK, maybe he wasn't really that smart, but most people thought he was and believed he actually wrote his own books.

Posted by: George at January 6, 2008 3:47 PM

Kennedy was neither smart nor successful. His father was and everyone hated him.

Posted by: oj at January 6, 2008 4:46 PM


Doubtful that JFK was actually elected President fairly.

Posted by: Rick T. at January 6, 2008 5:48 PM

Actually Rick, he was selected by his father's cronies in Illinois and Texas and Nixon, the arch-devil of American politics, didn't pursue it because he rightly knew it would destroy the public trust.

As thanks, he was destroyed proving that indeed no good deed goes unpunished.

Was he a dark and disturbed personality. Yes, but no more so than Johnson who really was a crook and conniver.

I wonder how many of us could withstand the relentless media bashing without becoming paranoid .

Posted by: erp at January 6, 2008 8:22 PM

He has no religion. When it was expedient he was pro-abortion, not Mormon.

Posted by: oj at January 6, 2008 8:29 PM

The fact that he believes in nothing seems to be why Huckabee and McCain--who like each other despite their rivalry--particularly dislike him.

Posted by: oj at January 6, 2008 8:29 PM

mccain is a high character guy, but watching him be interviewed over the last few years, since he decided to drink the bush lemondade, you can see it every time he answers a question and smiles......the guy just doesn't seem to be in his own skin when he stays calm and then smiles, he's gonna explode sooner or later, and do you want him doing that as president...not too mention, come on, the guys just old. huckabee is the most sincere of the bunch but he's the religious right dream, he would actually try and make abortion illegal, unlike most republicans who say they will, and put up red herrings, but never really do anything...yeah, you are all correct, i agree, mitt is just too phony. if he was the mormon he claims to be he would come across more sincere....

Posted by: neil at January 6, 2008 10:06 PM

Whatever else, McCain is a petty man. That will not serve him well, either as a candidate or as President.

OJ keeps saying Hillary needs to show some humility. Agreed. But McCain needs to show some grace. And some Republican-ness. He is still far too invested in the national media, and in dancing for them. For every independent (Democratic) vote he seeks, he probably loses at least an equal amount of GOP base votes. They might vote for him in November, but maybe not.

This is why Rudy is still the biggest threat to McCain. He doesn't reserve his sneers for those on his side, like McCain. Rudy takes his attitude to the Dems. If the Maverick were truly a Maverick (instead of a boor), he would do the same.

Posted by: jim hamlen at January 6, 2008 11:38 PM

Rudy isn't just personally corrupt but of the Party of Death. He's not a Republican.

Posted by: oj at January 7, 2008 7:38 AM