December 19, 2007


Would you give up Clay Buchholz? (Kevin Thomas, 12/19/07, Portland Press-Herald: Clearing the Bases)

Some thoughts as the Hot Stove League has cooled down (for now):

One of the latest rumors about the hunt for Johan Santana is that the Twins want Clay Buchholz in any trade with the Red Sox. Boston's answer should be easy. No. Period.

Buchholz shows the potential to become a right-handed Santana.

That's silly. Johan Santana has been the best pitcher in baseball for four consecutive years, a Koufaxian run. If Clay Buchholz maxes out his potential he's Jack McDowell, a nice enough starter but not a certain Hall of Famer, like Mr. Santana.

Meanwhile, if the various reports are true and putting Buchholz in the deal allows the Sox to pull out both Jon Lester and Jacoby Ellsbury then it ought to be a no-brainer. After all, you wouldn't do that 2 for 1 by itself.

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 19, 2007 5:25 PM

McDowell's career path -- excellent through age 29 and then a steep drop-off -- is as likely to be followed by Santana as Buchholz. If so, don't you want the 23 year old who has his 6 best years ahead of him, all cost-controlled, over the 28 year old who's about to go downhill and will cost $20 mn per year?

Posted by: pj at December 19, 2007 8:16 PM

But pj there's no comparison between McD and Santana. Santana's worst year, this past one, is better than McD's best.

Now, it's possible Johan blows out his arm, but it's also possible that Laptop doesn't live up to his minor league numbers.

Frankly, if I'm the Sawx I do Laptop, White Hope, AND Lester for Johan. A 4-5 starter in Lester, a possible star pitcher but also a possible wash-out in Laptop (don't really like Laptop's body type or the fact that he pitches up in the zone, sooner or later hitter's will lay off the high fastball), andin White Hope a cf who's already completed a college career and three years in the minors, has no power, and relies on speed?

In a heartbeat. Either the Sawx are bluffing, or they really believe their own hype on their prospects.

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at December 19, 2007 9:01 PM

I'd do it too as quick as that.

JIC's last sentence sums up where I'm at with this whole thing.

I just can't figure out why Santana isn't a Red Sox yet.

That cost-control stuff is not where the Sox head should be at. Cost-control is for also rans...

Posted by: Benny at December 19, 2007 9:12 PM

Tall skinny white guy--done by 30. Lefthander who relies on changeup, top tier at 40.

Posted by: oj at December 19, 2007 9:37 PM

I suspect Ellsbury would be amused at the White Hope tag; his mother is a full-blooded Navajo.

Posted by: Mike Earl at December 19, 2007 10:55 PM

Jim - Buchholz will also be much better than McDowell.

oj - Buchholz won't stay skinny. By tall skinny white guys, you mean Randy Johnson?

Posted by: pj at December 19, 2007 11:19 PM

Johnson's left-handed

Posted by: oj at December 20, 2007 12:43 AM

pj -- Laptop's 22 not 18. I don't see him adding much to his frame.

Mike: ssshhh, don't tell Sawx fans.

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at December 20, 2007 9:34 AM