December 30, 2007


The Minutemen Circus (Ruben Navarrette, 12/30/07, Real Clear Politics)

Tired of playing cop, some in the Minuteman movement are trying to influence the 2008 presidential election by playing powerbroker. And like just about everything this bunch does, the results are sad -- but funny. [...]

Here's the funny part: Suddenly, other anti-illegal immigration activists are hounding [Jim Gilchrist, one of the co-founders of the Minuteman Project] with the same zeal with which he once hounded illegal immigrants at the border. After Gilchrist appeared with Huckabee at a news conference in Iowa, the vigilante leader was bludgeoned on the Internet by hard-core nativists who believe Huckabee is soft on illegal immigration and that Gilchrist is just out for Gilchrist.

You don't say.

The requirement of ideological purity rationally follows that of racial purity.

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 30, 2007 9:18 AM

It's very easy to make fun of those concerned about open borders.

What is s happening with this issue in the culture is very similar to what had happened with gun rights issues in the past. The open-borders faction, like the gun-grabbers, engages in psywar ops, with name-calling and sloganeering. We all know the tactic: no discussion of the issues, just epithets such as "redneck," "racist," "yahoo," and even, "wahoo." This very effectively scares the articulate away from the issue, for who wants to be tagged with one of those nasty names.

Then the only ones left willing to be heard are those so unsophisticated or insular as to be oblivious to the name-calling, and the smear take on a life of its own.

It took gun-rights people generations to get out from under this kind of slander. Even at this late date, the intellectual acceptbility of the RKBA is only partial.

I renew my prediction of the toxicity of the open borders issue. A lot of good people are going to lie in the weeds on this issue, not talk about it, not honestly tell poll-takers what they think, and in the end, is is going to be deal-breaker and a coalition-buster,

Posted by: Lou Gots at December 30, 2007 10:22 AM

Watch for open-borders crowd to stop talking about immigration as the election approaches, just as the gun-grabbers start going on publicized, photo-op hunting trips during the election season. Watch for Dem candidates to run to the right of the GP on immigration.

No one in any open or close seats is going to run on amnesty or open borders, just like nobody in open or close seats runs on abortion, same-sex marriage and gun control. Americans don't like any of these liberal positions, regardless f what OJ says (remember 60-40, or 50-0).

Posted by: sam at December 30, 2007 12:12 PM

Mr. Gots, it's easy to make fun of those worried about "open borders" because they are so thoughtless. The borders of this country are huge. No wall will keep people out, you will need strong, harsh checks of people's internal passports. Said passports being run by the INS, the same people who take twenty+ years to move paper from one stack to another without reading. The thought is absurd on the face of it, and I have yet to find a closed borders proponent who will sign up for the internal passports. They get called names because that's what Americans have always done to stupid people....

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at December 30, 2007 12:36 PM

Both nominees will be for open-borders.

Posted by: oj at December 30, 2007 3:47 PM

There is indeed some considerable overlap between the gun nuts, militia-types and the nativists. Bill Clinton saved his presidency by coming down on the wahoos like the wrath of God. In its way it makes him a figure as great as McCarthy or Nixon. The witches must be hammered.

Posted by: oj at December 30, 2007 3:53 PM

Lou: It's something of a difference that gun-nuts have the constitution behind them while immigration-nuts hate the constitution, or at least that part that makes it absolutely clear that people born here are citizens, no ifs, ands or buts.

Posted by: Ibid at December 30, 2007 6:45 PM


We have strong, effective border control at every international airport in this country which does a great job "keeping people out" as you put it.

But I agree, those career US government paper pushers who don't do a job, the ones who court millions of illegals, have to go.

Posted by: Perry at January 1, 2008 7:31 AM

Innumerable illegals came by plane.

Posted by: oj at January 1, 2008 9:23 AM

landing in the desert doesn't count.

Posted by: Perry at January 1, 2008 12:06 PM

Are you laboring under the delusion that folks who fly in legally leave when they're required too?

Posted by: oj at January 1, 2008 5:23 PM

What's going on here? We all know that
"walls," or anything of that nature won't keep illegals out. As long as the demand for their labor is there, they will come in one way or another. If we meant business, which we don't, we would alter the demand for illegal immigrant labor by increasing its cost.

The cost of illegal labor would be increased by biometric identification and draconic enforcement--jail time and forfeiture of property--homes, farms, factories, not for the poor illegal aliens themselves but for their proximate exploiters.

Posted by: Lou Gots at January 2, 2008 5:25 PM

Walls are to shut the wahoos up so normal people can get on with American life.

Posted by: oj at January 2, 2008 8:45 PM