August 13, 2007


A pope who refuses to compromise (Peter Popham, 13 August 2007, Independent)

The Church may change its mind about some things, but abortion is not one of them. The latest development on the subject, under Pope Benedict XVI, is nothing to do with the basic policy but rather with its ramifications for politicians and organisations such as Amnesty International.

The row with Amnesty marks a hardening of the Catholic Church's resolve to take on liberal figures and organisations which have formerly been seen as the church's natural allies; a greater readiness to insist that its convictions on subjects such as abortion, where the Church has no intention of compromising, are more important than alliances with people and groups whose roots and values are secular - values from which the church establishment feels estranged.

The essence of the Church's teaching on abortion is that a human being possesses a soul from the moment of conception. "Surely I was sinful at the time of my birth, sinful from the moment my mother conceived me," declares David in Psalm 51. Since sinfulness belongs to the spirit not to the body, the growing foetus must be in possession of a soul quite as much as the growing child.

The church's teaching on abortion, said Pope John Paul II in 1995, "is unchanged and unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, always constitutes a grave moral disorder, since it is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written word of God."

Given that "compromise" requires acceptance of the idea that some people are unequal to others, how could a pope change his mind and remain Christian?

Posted by Orrin Judd at August 13, 2007 7:56 AM

How about like all the other Christians who don't have a problem with some people being unequal to others?

Posted by: Brandon at August 13, 2007 10:46 AM

There aren't any.

Posted by: oj at August 13, 2007 1:15 PM

What religion do the Afrikaners profess?
What religion dominates inequality-ridden Latin America?
Who comprises the backbone of the anti-immigrationists in America?

The things that you see, you see very clearly. The things that you don't see, you don't see at all.

Posted by: Brandon at August 13, 2007 2:55 PM

The Afrikaaners faith forced them to give the country to the coloreds even though they knew they'd run it into the ground.

Religion doesn't dominate Latin America, that's its problem.

The predominate feature of the nativist Right is its Darwinism.

Posted by: oj at August 13, 2007 5:36 PM

So why did the Afrikaaners' faith only force them to give the country to the majority blacks AFTER international pressure was stepped up?

And if Christianity doesn't dominate Latin America, where does that leave all of your, "We're importing a superior culture" comments?

And read this:

And Land's comment that he "might be 'a little bit ahead' of where some Southern Baptists are vis-à-vis this issue"

Posted by: Brandon at August 13, 2007 6:02 PM

It could only be given back once the Cold War was won, same as Northern Ireland and Palestine.

Notice that the Christians are leaving and the Socialists staying?

The Southern Baptists oppose them because they think they're all Catholic.

Posted by: oj at August 13, 2007 7:29 PM