July 17, 2007

TAMP 'EM UP SOLID (via Mike Earl):

India to hold biggest ever naval exercise in Bay of Bengal (PTI, 7/13/07)

Twenty warships from five countries, including three aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines and fighters, will assemble in the Bay of Bengal in September for a major naval exercise to be hosted by India. The other countries taking part in the wargame are the US, Japan, Australia and Singapore and the warships that will be fielded for it include two American nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, USS Nimitz and Kitty Hawk, defence ministry officials here said today. [...]

Australia's Defence Minister Brendan Nelson allayed Beijing's fears, saying there was no quadrilateral security alliance comprising Australia, the US, India and Japan in the offing.

As Friend Earl put it: "And I am Marie of Romania."

Posted by Orrin Judd at July 17, 2007 7:42 PM

"Three aircraft carriers." Very misleading.

In reality, two aircraft carriers, and one tiny jump-jet assault ship belonging to India.

Let's do the math. Nimitz class, a real aircraft carrier: 102000 tons; Viraat class (Indian) 28700 tons. Not an "aircraft carrier" at all, merely an assault ship, somewhat inferior of displacement and capability to the ships used to carry the Marine Corps, and its sirplanes, in to combat, e.g. Tarawa class, 39000 tons.

Any airplane is better than no airplanes, which is why Tarawas can carry Harriers also, but it is mere flattery to call them "aircraft carriers. Rectification of names again.

Posted by: Lou Gots at July 17, 2007 9:24 PM

Don't worry, the old Tarawa and new Wasp class fleets can pull Nimitz class fleet duty once the F-35 and the Droid Airfleet come online...twice the fleet to fight the fight at the same cost, with more flexibility! The last place to hide won't be on the shore - it will be in the mountains, way inland, where there ain't much money, oil or girls. Now who Krazy?!


Posted by: KRS at July 17, 2007 11:37 PM

I wouldn't trash Viraat too hard, Lou. In any navy other than the USN, she's a capital ship.

Posted by: Mike Morley at July 18, 2007 5:51 AM

Other countries have navies?

Posted by: erp at July 18, 2007 7:29 AM

Historical analogies aren't perfect. But they can be very useful. I would suggest the history of Kaiser Wilhelm's Germany can help us better understand the recent rise of Communist China.

In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, Imperial Germany rapidly became a major industrial power, just as China is now. Despite its impressive economic growth, however, Germany remained saddled with a very large and very backward agricultural sector, so much so that even as late as the Second World War Germany was still a poor country in comparison with Western Europe and the United States, just as China is now.

Arriving late to the ranks of the great powers, Germany also carried an enormous chip on its shoulders with its whining demands for "a place in the sun," just as China is now. In the end, through bluster and stupidity, Imperial Germany conjured up a large and invincible international coalition against it, turning the greatest powers of the day - Britain, France, Russia, and the United States - into its enemies. China has now accomplished the same trick with its foolish and arrogant behavior, goading Australia, India, Japan, and the United States into forming another and ultimately winning grand coalition.

It certainly looks as if Communist China is determined to undertake the same journey Imperial Germany did.

Posted by: X at July 18, 2007 7:54 AM

With the same results.

Posted by: Bartman at July 18, 2007 8:17 AM