April 22, 2007

THE MOST JUSTIFIED TORTURE:

After Iraqi Troops Do Dirty Work, 3 Detainees Talk (ALISSA J. RUBIN, 4/22/07, NY Times)

Out here in what the soldiers call Baghdad’s wild west, sometimes the choices are all bad.

In one of the new joint American-Iraqi security stations in the capital this month, in the volatile Ghazaliya neighborhood, Capt. Darren Fowler was heaping praise on his Iraqi counterparts for helping capture three insurgent suspects who had provided information he believed would save American lives.

“The detainee gave us names from the highest to the lowest,” Captain Fowler told the Iraqi soldiers. “He showed us their safe houses, where they store weapons and I.E.D.’s and where they keep kidnap victims, how they get weapons, where weapons come from, how they place I.E.D.’s, attack us and go away. Because you detained this guy this is the first intelligence linking everything together. Good job. Very good job.”

The Iraqi officers beamed. What the Americans did not know and what the Iraqis had not told them was that before handing over the detainees to the Americans, the Iraqi soldiers had beaten one of them in front of the other two, the Iraqis said. The stripes on the detainee’s back, which appeared to be the product of a whipping with electrical cables, were later shown briefly to a photographer, who was not allowed to take a picture.

To the Iraqi soldiers, the treatment was normal and necessary. They were proud of their technique and proud to have helped the Americans.

“I prepared him for the Americans and let them take his confession,” Capt. Bassim Hassan said through an interpreter. “We know how to make them talk. We know their back streets. We beat them. I don’t beat them that much, but enough so he feels the pain and it makes him desperate.”


Note that this is not to extract a confession, which is valueless following torture, but intelligence about the enemy, which is easily tested. If we aren't willing to participate or utilize it, we really need to get out and let the serious people win the war.

Posted by Orrin Judd at April 22, 2007 7:54 AM
Comments

Now if they'd start executing or atleast jailing battlefield deserters.

Posted by: Brian at April 23, 2007 12:19 AM
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