March 29, 2007


Arab peace plan could see detente with Israel (Staff and agencies, March 29, 2007, Guardian Unlimited)

According to a draft version, the summit will "call on the government of Israeli and the Israelis at large to accept the Arab peace initiative and seize the available opportunity to resume direct and serious negotiations on all tracks".

The initiative, first put together at a summit in 2002, has won uniform acceptance from Arab leaders gathered for the two-day event in Riyadh, but could yet founder, with Israel expressing doubts about the extent of territorial withdrawal and the possible return of large numbers of Palestinian refugees to their former homes.

Israel says it could accept the offer with certain changes, but some Arab leaders have, thus far, refused to amend it. [...]

The Arab unanimity over the deal was due in large measure to Saudi Arabia, which bridged its quarrels with Syria and persuaded the Palestinian Islamists of Hamas to stay onside.

The initial offer in 2002 was ignored by the west and Israel at the height of the second intifada, and was then overshadowed by the Iraq war.

The plan's revival represents the broadest possible Arab support for a permanent accommodation with Israel.

Posted by Orrin Judd at March 29, 2007 10:08 AM

"a permanent accommodation with Israel"

We all know what that really means!

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 11:10 AM

This isn't a new plan. It's the same plan that the Arab states roll out every couple of years. It's not acceptable to Israel, so it never goes anywhere.

Posted by: Brandon at March 29, 2007 11:57 AM

"It's not acceptable to Israel" -

Suicide never is.

Posted by: obc at March 29, 2007 1:13 PM


Unless you're European.

Posted by: Rick T. at March 29, 2007 1:25 PM


Posted by: obc at March 29, 2007 1:44 PM

It doesn't matter whether it's acceptable to them, it's acceptable to us.

Posted by: oj at March 29, 2007 2:15 PM

It isn't acceptable to us either. At least, it never has been in the past.

Posted by: Brandon at March 29, 2007 4:44 PM


Posted by: obc at March 29, 2007 6:24 PM

I've heard that song before............

Posted by: ed at March 29, 2007 6:51 PM

Keep in mind that it is Israel which commits us the war of annihilation with the spiritual jailhouse. We set it up that way, and we cannot get out of it while Israel survives.

As the decisive battle approaches, it is time for the surrender-mongers to get ready to give Israel up.

Thus the first moves are in the wind. Abandonment of strategic positions, making defense more difficult. The so-called "right of return" for folk-enemies bent of Israel's destruction will be coming.

It all makes perfect sense. Cowardice and perfidy have their own logic.

Posted by: Lou Gots at March 29, 2007 7:04 PM

Except that post-Zionist, post-Jewish Israel is just another part of the jailhouse. America and Islam will be around long after it dies out, with this being the last Jewish Nation.

Posted by: oj at March 29, 2007 8:34 PM

In view of the close similarity between anti-Jewish prejudice and anti-American prejudice, we can see that Americans are now honorary Jews.

In other words, in the course of the past six years, the number of Jews has increased by a factor of twenty.

After reading World on Fire by Amy Chua, it looks like we'll have the Chinese in our coalition before long.

Posted by: Joseph Hertzlinger at March 30, 2007 12:06 AM


Don't you mean that Israel may go the way of the secular jailhouse in Europe?

A peace deal could work, presuming the Ba'athists in Syria are dead, the Lebanese border isn't swiss cheese (for weapons), and the Palestinians are healed of their insanity. But what would Israel do if the radicals take charge in Egypt and begin militarizing the Sinai?

Posted by: jim hamlen at March 30, 2007 12:12 AM

Simply because in the Juddeo-Christian world, we're putting our money on Islam, er... Shi'ism.

The Jews....the "Jews" have failed us, so theys gots to go.

Posted by: Barry Meislin at March 30, 2007 5:18 AM

Has gone. The reason Sharon was the one to create Palestine was because he could read the demographics. Jews are too secularized for Israel to survive.

Posted by: oj at March 30, 2007 6:47 AM

The Muslim Brotherhood will take over Egypt, not the radicals. It's in Israel's best interest that its neighbors be Islamic democracies as it is a Jewish democracy.

Posted by: oj at March 30, 2007 6:50 AM

Failed God, not us.

Posted by: oj at March 30, 2007 7:00 AM

Is there any country in the world,secular or religious, that is not experiencing falling birth rates?

Posted by: Styx at March 30, 2007 7:37 AM

Duff, missing posts may not be deleted, they may be a failure of the comments program whereby by comments appear multiple times or appear on the wrong post.

Posted by: erp at March 30, 2007 9:04 AM

Failed God, not us.

God, Muhammed, Martin Luther, Orrin Judd, etc.

Not much difference there.

Posted by: at March 30, 2007 9:20 AM

That were me....

Posted by: Barry Meislin at March 30, 2007 9:21 AM

Go forth and multiply, not subtract.

Posted by: oj at March 30, 2007 9:50 AM

God is a Darwinist?

Posted by: Styx at March 30, 2007 12:32 PM

All intelligent beings are Darwinist. It's only Nature that isn't.

Posted by: oj at March 30, 2007 1:40 PM

So that makes the Nazis (aka "applied Darwinists") super-intelligent?

Posted by: Styx at March 30, 2007 2:30 PM

Super intellectuals. Intelligent people realize that applying Darwinism is anti-Darwinist.

Posted by: oj at March 30, 2007 3:17 PM

Encouraging higher birth rates (which the Nazis did of course) is not applied Darwinism?

Posted by: Styx at March 30, 2007 3:49 PM

Sure it is. But God commanded it first.

Posted by: oj at March 30, 2007 8:55 PM