October 12, 2006


Out of their misery (David Warren, 10/12/06, Ottawa Citizen)

When a madman, holding hostages, says his gun is loaded -- it is time for the police to shoot him. No need to establish whether he’s telling the truth. (Or, whatever the equivalent in international relations.)

In our analogy the madman is North Korea.

Posted by Orrin Judd at October 12, 2006 3:36 PM

This isn't a N. Korea issue. It's a China issue.

If China wants Kim gone, he's gone, if not, there isn't a thing W can or will do.

We - neither as a nation nor as president - have the guts to confront China on its creation and coddling of Kim Jong Il.

We could slap a 10% tarriff on all Chinese goods, increased to 20, then 30 the 40% etc. until they shut him down.

We could arm Japan & Taiwan with nukes, or threaten to, until he's gone.

We have a great deal of leverage, if we were willing to use it, but we aren't.

2 party talks are a joke. 6 Party talks are a charade.

We either force China to get rid of him, or he stays and becomes more dangerous.

It really is that simple.

Posted by: Bruno at October 12, 2006 3:49 PM

Nothing will do more to destabilize China than liberating North Korea and there's nothing they can do about it.

Posted by: oj at October 12, 2006 3:58 PM

If "Intelligence" is correct, NK apparently hasn't quite figured out how to make the whole bomb thing work. Perhaps giving them a a live demonstration of how to do it would be helpful.

Posted by: John Resnick at October 12, 2006 4:31 PM


GWB begs to differ. He's a frightened rabbit where China is concerned.

I hate to sound like a lefty, but some of Ws contributors might lose some money.

Posted by: Bruno at October 12, 2006 4:39 PM

W's contributors aren't they types who lose money when a North Korea topples--they make it.

Posted by: oj at October 12, 2006 5:01 PM


I'm with ya bro. Slap big tariffs on imports from China until they change their ways. The Chinese are not our friends.

Posted by: AllenS at October 12, 2006 5:35 PM

Bruno, What possible leverage could his donors have on Bush now? There a House seat he plans on running for?

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at October 12, 2006 5:37 PM

Why should we do anything but sit back and watch the comedy unfold?

Posted by: erp at October 12, 2006 5:39 PM


Be serious. The fact that he is no longer running for anything does not mean he isn't beholden to his clients. The interests that fund the Rep party would rather pretend that China is a "market" to sell to instead of an enemy.

If OJ was right, we would have "done" NoKo before Iraq.

We are scared silly of China, and probably for very little reason.

Ship some nukes to Taiwan and tell the PRC we'll remove them moment Kim Jong Il is gone. (Taiwan, of course must agree). It's brinksmanship, but probably worth it under the circumstance.

I'm not freaking out about NoKo, but he's no laughing matter either. If we are the "Empire of Good" OJ says we are, and we have this narrow window to act at will, what are we waiting for?

Posted by: Bruno at October 12, 2006 7:01 PM

Why? His father didn't biff Korea.

Posted by: oj at October 12, 2006 7:04 PM

No need to tarrif China, which will just make my Nike's more expensive. Just let Japan play bad cop on this one. That'll freak out the southeast asia coprosperity sphere in a hurry. For what it's worth, that's what seems to be happening.

Posted by: Mike Beversluis at October 12, 2006 11:51 PM
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