October 26, 2006


Cheney calls 'water-boarding' a valuable interrogation tool: The vice president confirmed that an interrogation technique that simulates drowning and has been called 'cruel and inhumane' was used on al Qaeda suspects. (JONATHAN S. LANDAY, 10/26/06, McClatchy)

In the interview on Tuesday, Scott Hennen of WDAY Radio in Fargo, N.D., told Cheney that listeners had asked him to ``let the vice president know that if it takes dunking a terrorist in water, we're all for it, if it saves American lives.''

''Again, this debate seems a little silly given the threat we face, would you agree?'' Hennen said.

''I do agree,'' Cheney replied, according to a transcript of the interview released Wednesday. ``And I think the terrorist threat, for example, with respect to our ability to interrogate high-value detainees like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, that's been a very important tool that we've had to be able to secure the nation.''

Cheney added that Mohammed had provided ``enormously valuable information about how many [al Qaeda members] there are, about how they plan, what their training processes are and so forth. We've learned a lot. We need to be able to continue that.''

''Would you agree that a dunk in water is a no-brainer if it can save lives?'' asked Hennen.

'It's a no-brainer for me, but for a while there, I was criticized as being the vice president `for torture.' We don't torture. That's not what we're involved in,'' Cheney replied. ``We live up to our obligations in international treaties that we're party to and so forth. But the fact is, you can have a fairly robust interrogation program without torture, and we need to be able to do that.''

It seems unlikely that any vice-president of the United States ever has had or ever will have as much fun as Dick Cheney has.

Posted by Orrin Judd at October 26, 2006 12:05 PM

"''Would you agree that a dunk in water is a no-brainer if it can save lives?''

Self-serving crap.

I leave it to Jim Henley, who recently put the issue this way:

"Let’s say you’ve caught a suspect and you’re sure that he’s a terrorist, and you’re sure there’s a nuclear bomb planted somewhere in Manhattan, and you’re sure that he knows where the nuclear device has been planted in Manhattan, and you’re sure that this particular terrorist has been trained to resist torture just long enough that you could never get the true location of the bomb out of him in time. But you’re also sure that this particular terrorist is a pervert! And he tells you that if you’ll let him watch you rape your own child in front of him, he’ll tell you exactly where the bomb is and how to disarm it. And you’re sure that he will, because your intelligence is that good in exactly that way.

Wow! What a fascinating hypothetical, huh? And really, no less unlikely than the ticking bomb scenario you’re more familiar with, when you consider just how precisely the foundation of that dilemma has to be laid. So how come we hear so much about the other one and nothing about mine?

The answer is simple: State agents don’t have any ambition to rape their own children."

Posted by: M. at October 26, 2006 3:56 PM

Isn't the point of that hypothetical that he knows and is ready to talk so you should torture him?

Posted by: oj at October 26, 2006 4:07 PM

"The absence of the will to live is caused with decreasing production of endorphins - the substance, which is known as the hormone of happiness. If a depressed individual receives a physical punishment, whipping that is, it will stir up endorphin receptors, activate the “production of happiness” and eventually remove depressive feelings.

Russian scientists recommend the following course of the whipping therapy: 30 sessions of 60 whips on the buttocks in every procedure."

We may yet cure the jihadists their suicidal-homicidal psychosis.


Posted by: ic at October 26, 2006 5:40 PM

He's having fun because he's not running for anythng, and knows that a VP has no "legacy" to polish. Does anyone know or care about Walter Mondale, Dan Quayle, Agnew, Rockefeller, Humphrey or even Algore anymore? Cheney knows he's next on the list.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at October 26, 2006 8:34 PM