August 20, 2006

WHY SHOULD DARWINISTS BE THE SILLIEST "SCIENTISTS"?:

Pluto's New Place in Space Could Be as a 'Pluton' (Rob Stein, 8/16/06, Washington Post)

Hoping to end the agonizing over whether Pluto is really a planet, an international committee of astronomers has come up with a new definition that would save the tiny body's place in the sun's family.

Under the long-awaited proposal, Pluto would remain in the pantheon of planets by becoming the prototype of a new subcategory of small, outer solar system objects dubbed "plutons" -- planets, but distinct from the eight larger "classical" planets closer to the sun.

The changes would require astronomy textbooks to be rewritten and every schoolchild to be taught a new vision of the solar system, because three other orbs would get promoted to planet status, as well -- expanding the total from the traditional nine to 12.

"Everybody's been wanting to know: 'Is Pluto a planet?' " said Richard P. Binzel of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who served on the seven-member committee assembled by the International Astronomical Union (IAU) to settle the explosive issue.


Actually, people could care less, but these guys are in danger of sinking into the sort of omphalomancy that Darwinists use when they pretend there's been speciation. On the other hand, they nicely illustrate the truth of homocentrism.

Posted by Orrin Judd at August 20, 2006 12:23 PM
Comments

What happened to Vulcan? Astrologers have been waiting for astronomers to prove its existence.

Posted by: erp at August 20, 2006 12:44 PM

Which is redundant.

Posted by: oj at August 20, 2006 12:48 PM

As with all politicized science, they started out with their desried conclusion: preserving the mistake made in the 1930s by defining Pluto as a planet, and worked backwards to the present fiasco. One of the hardest things for scientists to do is admit they've been proven wrong, and this is no better example.

As for so-called "Vulcan", for every solar eclipse, there are very strange people who spend those precious few minutes looking through a telescope for comets, instead of enjoying the spectacle. If it exists, they'd have seen it by now. (And the automated solar observatories would have recorded numerous transits if it as big as the astrologers claim.)

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at August 20, 2006 1:31 PM

Then where did Spock come from, Raoul?

Posted by: ghostcat at August 20, 2006 1:49 PM

Pluto was discovered in the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff. I've been there a couple of times. Suggesting that it was a mistake to call Pluto a planet might just get you kicked out.

Posted by: Brandon at August 20, 2006 4:17 PM

That Vulcan was in another solar system far far away.

Posted by: erp at August 20, 2006 4:18 PM

Try going to the Galapagos and pointing out that all the finches crossbreed.....

Posted by: oj at August 20, 2006 4:22 PM

oj,

The Galapagos are in the Eastern Time Zone?

Posted by: James Haney at August 20, 2006 4:35 PM

Suggesting that it was a mistake to call Pluto a planet might just get you kicked out.

Which is exactly the problem. Its discoverer was around for another 6 decades, and sentimentality (don't hurt Tombaugh's feelings) set into the entire science. That it took almost as long to find the next members of that class of objects just made things even worse, as there were no examples to show why it was a mistake But even then, go back and look at the supposed size and mass of Pluto listed in books published in the '50s to those out today, and you can watch it shrink in size from something larger than Mars to something as small as our moon. (Note also how Ceres was going to get lumped into this redefinition, even though two centuries ago, during the first round of discovery of a new class of objects, it was never considered to be a planet. Under normal circumstances, that's a good sign that an effort is flawed.)

As for "Vulcan", see In Search of Planet Vulcan by Baum and Sheehan, for a history of that exercise in wishful thinking and mistaken identity.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at August 20, 2006 4:40 PM

They were before continental drift got to them...

Posted by: oj at August 20, 2006 4:41 PM

The Vulcan that Mr. Spock and T'Pol and rest of the gang are from is 16 lightyears from Earth in the 40 Eridani system.

Posted by: Bryan at August 21, 2006 7:39 AM

For those who don't know, Vulcan was supposed to be planet closer to the sun than Mercury. It was so close the sun it could not be seen by the naked eye. There were supposed to have been occassional sightings by astronomers in the 19th century and then all traces mysteriously disappeared - like the canals on Mars. I remember this from one of those A&E type science mystery specials. I had no idea astrologers were claiming it exists.

Posted by: Chris Durnell at August 21, 2006 12:11 PM
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