Every decent person would support Hispanics who buy their homes legally, but what of the ones who don't register their deeds to avoid land transfer taxes or are a little casual about the income they declare on their mortgage application forms? Shouldn't they be herded up and expelled?

Peter,

If you start doing that to Hispanics, you'll have to do it to such illustrious tax-reformer-types as Doug Bruce here in CO. He wrote his TABOR amendment to specifically exclude real estate transfer taxes.

Guess what Doug Bruce does for a living?

When I have that right in Mexico that they want here.....

Then Mexico will be as great a country as we are.

"WE CAN'T ASSIMILATE.....OOPS, NEVERMIND"

Water assimilates with Whiskey. But you end up with watered down Whiskey.

The native water has never tainted the imported whiskey too much.

I prefer 90 proof Americanism, to 80 proof.

BTW, is Argentina a better or worse country, due to the influence of ex-Nazis immigrating to the country, instead of an influx of Eastern European Jews? I say worse.

H:

Yes, the immigrants are 100%. The dessicated natives are the diluting agent.

You point vis-a-vis Argentina is apt, they'd have done better to let in the "inferior" race than the Master.

So you agree then that one can make value judgements as to the likelihood of different beneficial effects between groups.

Therefore we are finally in agreement on this subject. Don't bring it up again.

h:

Of course I do--I'm a racist and a bigot too. I just disagree with you about which groups add value.

No, you are not. Far, far from it. Don't talk that way, even for fun. This is the Internet.

Peter:

Why not? I'd not allow Frenchmen, atheists, homosexuals, Islamicists, communists, etc. in.

Yes, you would, and you know it. Don't pull your rough, tough consevative act on me. I know you are a big immigration marshmellow.

Well, of course I wouldn't do it personally, but I'd approve of making them pay coyotes to sneak them in.

Now let's get serious here. If one looks at Jewish/Italian and even Chinese/ Japanese immigration from the past, one would have encountered doctrinaire socialist/ethnocentric impulses which would have, and were, seen as subversive. It was politically tough with no easy answers and not without genuine worries, but the solution came in the second or even the third generation, which shucked the historical hangups (not easy--think of the Irish). So it was, and so it will be. You know as well as I that if you encountered a boatload of gay, Islamicist Frenchmen yearning to be free, you would argue for their admittannce knowing that such drivel could't survive a generation in America. You would quite properly want the security services to have whatever resources they needed to ensure the subversion was restricted to Dad ranting around the dinner table, but otherwise it would be deja-vu all over again.

I repeat, don't talk that way. Your kids deserve to know how hard you have fought.

Peter's just looking to offload Canada's superabundance of gay French Islamicists.

Dark socks and shorts wearing gay French Islamicists.

The worst kind.

Hey! Guess what Google returns first for "dark socks and shorts."

This debate is driven by fear and emotions not by facts.