May 15, 2006


Bush Set To Send Guard to Border: Assignment Would Be Temporary; Critics Cite Strain on Troops (Peter Baker, May 15, 2006, Washington Post)

President Bush tried to ease the worries of his Mexican counterpart yesterday as he prepared for a nationally televised address tonight unveiling a plan to send thousands of National Guard troops to help seal the nation's southern border against illegal immigrants.

Mexican President Vicente Fox called to express concern over the prospect of militarization of the border, and Bush reassured him that it would be only a temporary measure to bolster overwhelmed Border Patrol agents, the White House said.

Tougher border enforcement has backfired (Spencer S. Hsu, 5/15/06, The Washington Post)
Beefed-up enforcement at the U.S.-Mexico border since Sept. 11, 2001, has substantially increased the number of arrests of illegal immigrants, but tens of thousands of captured non-Mexicans continue to be released into the United States because there is no place to hold them, according to experts and immigration officials.

The vast majority simply slip away inside the country after being issued "Notices to Appear" for a deportation hearing — documents known to Border Patrol agents as "Notices to Disappear."

The success of border crossers who stay in the United States through this "catch-and-release" process has encouraged others who hope to enter the country the same way.

The same folks complaining about immigration are the ones complaining about spending, and that's not a contradiction they can square.

Reform bill to double immigration (Charles Hurt, May 15, 2006, THE WASHINGTON TIMES)

The immigration reform bill that the Senate takes up today would more than double the flow of legal immigration into the United States each year and dramatically lower the skill level of those immigrants.

The number of extended family members that U.S. citizens or legal residents can bring into this country would double. More dramatically, the number of workers and their immediate families could increase sevenfold if there are enough U.S. employers looking for cheap foreign labor. Another provision would grant humanitarian visas to any woman or orphaned child anywhere in the world "at risk of harm" because of age or sex. [...]

All told, the Hagel-Martinez bill would increase the annual flow of legal immigrants into the U.S. to more than 2 million from roughly 1 million today, scholars and analysts say.

A doubling is nice, but unlikely to prove enough. If there's one thing that conservatives know, it's that central governments aren't capable of making micro-management decisions like the exact number of workers we need to import.

Posted by Orrin Judd at May 15, 2006 8:27 AM

I was going to my usual wahoo right blogs this morning and predictably they are a tad bit livid. It's fun to read their venting.

Posted by: mc at May 15, 2006 8:43 AM

You know, if some wahoo on the right were to respond to OJ, "I shouldn't have to square the contradiction. I want lowered immigration and I want less spending. Got a problem with that, Jack?", I could probably have a little more respect for the nativists.

Sometimes, conducting discussion on every little issue by Robert's Rules of Order gets a little old.

Posted by: Brad S at May 15, 2006 9:10 AM

You'd respect them more if they were more openly unrealistic?

Posted by: oj at May 15, 2006 9:19 AM


The main problem I have with too many wahoos on the right is that they refuse to get their hands dirty. When they use debate points, they send a signal that they want nothing to do with the commoner.

The example I used is pure emotion, which plays very well with the commoner. Ironically, this also explains why John Derbyshire has the following he has.

Posted by: Brad S at May 15, 2006 9:33 AM

I avoid the Corner these days but ventured in yesterday due to boredom (heavy rains in the Northeast). Derbyshire and Podhoretz were going at it over immigration with Podhoretz trying to nicely say that Derbyshire was being racist - of course the rest of the Corner lept to Derbyshire's defense and labelled Podhoretz as being naive on immigration and a Bush-toady.

One thing that has bothered me on this whole thing is the kowtowing to Fox. It is our border to secure and we should be able to do what we think is necessary to protect the border. Fox could get off his butt and improve the economic conditions of the country which should lessen the desire of his citizens to leave.

Posted by: AWW at May 15, 2006 10:10 AM

Fox is in a variant of 'Bad money chases out Good'. The Mexican elites are corrupt, but the people he needs to fix that leave for America. I don't think Mexico can be reformed, I think it needs to collapse. We should be ready for that.

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at May 15, 2006 10:47 AM

More than Mexico are hypocritical and corrupt here.

It is so easy to silence opposition by labeling disagreement as "racist."

Another strain of hypocracy and corruption is found in the International Taxpayer Idendification Number, or "ITIN" system, which gives aliens a dummy number in place of a SSN and facilitates their employment. ITIN's could have been set up to identify the holders as aliens, but this has not been done, the illegals merely passing the number off as a real SSN.

It is most troubling to comtemplate the election of a far-left president and congress because the stupid party allows itself to be split over this business.

Posted by: Lou Gots at May 15, 2006 12:03 PM

Preview of Monday night speech? El Presidente's oration. "Our First Mexican President."

Posted by: gringoman at May 15, 2006 12:55 PM

He's been that since '92.

Posted by: oj at May 15, 2006 12:58 PM


I think you have the right/left approach to the commoner exactly backwards. The left wants to be able to say that the government is taking care of it so I don't have to be bothered and stroll on down the street unless the right is starting to fix the problem by helping the commoner actually go to work. That is when you see the left meet the commoner, when it looks as if the right is going to take the government out of the business of doing the hard work with the commoner. The rest of the time the left wants to bribe the government into doing it so they don't need to gt involved but can sit there and preen themselves for all the good stuff they do which is absolutely nothing.

Posted by: dick at May 15, 2006 1:26 PM

The fact is that Derb at NRO is in fact an open bigot. Hint: Englishmen don't get to pretend they're only making light-hearted jokes when they talk about "Popery" and the like in discussions about Ireland. I shudder to think what he's been posting about immigration lately. I stopped reading the Corner some time ago.

The NG-to-the-border indications about tonight's speech are the first hints of desperation that I think we've really seen from the Bush presidency, and does not bode well.

Posted by: b at May 15, 2006 2:01 PM

According to a research paper put out by the Heritage foundation the “temporary” guest worker provision in the Hagel-Martinez bill will result in astounding 103 million new immigrants in 20 years 1/3 of the present US population.

This is the incarnation of Bush's earlier speech in January 2004 when he first pushed his idea of letting into America all persons on earth who could underbid an American for a job.

Posted by: h-man at May 15, 2006 4:01 PM

Phew, those numbers are more like it.

Posted by: oj at May 15, 2006 4:06 PM


With all due respect, I want to say that you are

A FRIGGIN IDIOT!...i mean that affectionately of course.

Posted by: h-man at May 15, 2006 4:28 PM

Once we start getting attacked they'll leave.

Posted by: sandy P at May 15, 2006 4:39 PM


My people thought we should have stopped after the first couple thousand immigrants.

Posted by: oj at May 15, 2006 4:59 PM

H-man - read the study. They are playing fast with the numbers. They point to the 20% annual increase allowable for H2C visas and extrapolate 20 years of growth at 20% to get to 70 million new immigrants. Note that the starting number for the H2C visas is 365,000. You would think that common sense would say if the H2C visas got up close to 1MM they would shut the spigot off.

Posted by: AWW at May 15, 2006 6:24 PM

"common sense"

Oh..yeah right.

Posted by: h-man at May 15, 2006 6:32 PM

Well, I know OJ hates it when we do this, so let's use actual numbers.

The historic high water mark for immigration was 1.6% per year. Compounding that over 20 years yields ~37% increase. That's over a third, so we could hit those numbers without exceeding historic limits on immigration rates.

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at May 15, 2006 11:07 PM

By which time almost all of them are American.

Posted by: David Cohen at May 16, 2006 1:46 PM