May 17, 2006


Center ties hate crimes to border debate (Kevin Johnson, 5/16/2006, USA TODAY)

Tension over illegal immigration is contributing to a rise in hate groups and hate crimes across the nation, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. It says that racist groups are using the immigration debate as a rallying cry.

The center — an Alabama-based non-profit organization that tracks racist, anti-immigrant and other extremist groups — says in a new report that there were 803 such hate groups in the USA last year, up from 762 in 2004 and a 33% jump since 2000.

The center's report says the national debate that has focused on Hispanic immigration has been "the single most important factor" in spurring activity among hate groups and has given them "an issue with real resonance."

The debate over immigration "has been critical to the growth of the hate movement," says Mark Potok, editor of the center's quarterly report on extremists. "More and more groups are turning to immigration to help recruitment."

Hopefully it won't take another Oklahoma City to shock folks out of their flirtation with white separatism this time.

Posted by Orrin Judd at May 17, 2006 8:20 AM

oj. What does the Oklahoma City bombing have to do with white supremacy?

I think the Oklahoma City bombing was an Islamic terrorist operation and the home-grown boys were just low end front men. Clinton moved fast to blame the VRWC then had the site cleared and McVeigh dispatched ASAP.

McVeigh didn't enjoy the usual twenty year long appeal process that's the norm for capital cases and there were no candle light vigils or Rachel Corrie wannabes demonstrating against capital punishment. None of it passed the smell test.

Posted by: erp at May 17, 2006 9:23 AM

The only way that immigration is going to drive a repeat of what happened at Oklahoma City is if armed posses start shooting desert wanderers in the Southwest.

I don't doubt that fringe groups will exploit the vacuum in immigration policy, but if a nutjob goes and blows up a federal building over it, said nutjob would have blown something else up for other reasons. McVeigh wanted to be somebody, to kill people - the reasons and the target were secondary.

Posted by: ratbert at May 17, 2006 9:52 AM

I like the way the Open Borders advocates have taken a page from Leftism and are already tarring legitimate opponents to their program as extremists.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 17, 2006 10:08 AM

You guys see whites, I see Mecha.

Posted by: Sandy P at May 17, 2006 10:21 AM

The SPLC has been full of it for years. After OK City they said it was the result of a huge conspiracy of hate groups, not international but US based, instead of a couple of nuts

Posted by: echo at May 17, 2006 10:29 AM


McVeigh apparently was familiar with the works of Dr. William Pierce, which falls easily into white supremacy category.

Posted by: h-man at May 17, 2006 10:51 AM


Nope, just white separatist whackos.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 11:24 AM

May 17, 2006, Blogosphere -- Prominent blogger Orrin Judd today suggested that Americans who believe their nation protecting its borders is a good idea are not only anti-immigration but allied with white supremists like Timothy McVeigh.

Posted by: je at May 17, 2006 11:41 AM

"MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Police enraged by the kidnapping of six officers club unarmed detainees. A bloody battle between steelworkers and police leaves two miners dead. Drug lords post the heads of decapitated police on a fence to show who's in charge."

OJ's favorite people.

Posted by: NC3 at May 17, 2006 11:42 AM

echO Bingo; one need read no farther......

Posted by: ed at May 17, 2006 11:44 AM

echO Bingo; one need read no farther. Just a political ad.....

Posted by: ed at May 17, 2006 11:44 AM

What if--some one is planning a book about immigration and he or she posts a lot of unhinged, whacko, extreme position on a weblog, and then sits back while the critical comments pour in.

Posted by: Lou Gots at May 17, 2006 12:30 PM


I'm not actually writing a book. The comments are unwelcome.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 1:26 PM


It wasn't terribly wide, certainly not international, but it was white hate groups.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 1:28 PM


The cream of their society comes here.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 1:29 PM


Ideological soulmates.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 1:29 PM


They're white.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 1:51 PM

You should then propose erasing the border with Mexico (and Canada, for consistency) and state that anyone on earth that can get into either of those two countries has carte blanche (no pun intended) to become a US citizen (becoming an American is optional.)

For your information, I am pro-immigration, Latino, and the child of legal immigrants.

Posted by: je at May 17, 2006 2:04 PM


Of course we should welcome anyone who wants to become an American.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 2:13 PM

je. Becoming an American is not optional, it's mandatory and will be strictly enforced.

McVeigh, alleged white supremist, went to the Philippines to confer with Filipino guerrillas because . . .

Posted by: erp at May 17, 2006 3:18 PM


Not alleged.,ridgeway,1045,1.html

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 3:26 PM

Wasn't it Nichols who went to the Philippines? Even if he and Mc Veigh were racists, they could still have been useful idiots for the likes of OBL.

Posted by: jdkelly at May 17, 2006 6:39 PM

No, it was the Jews who used them....

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 7:47 PM

Thanks for clearing that up. I forgot.

Posted by: jdkelly at May 17, 2006 8:00 PM

jd's right ... and oj, You know the JOOOS stopped using fertilizer bombs a long time ago.

Posted by: erp at May 17, 2006 8:50 PM

One inane conspiracy theory is as good as another. They explained why they did it--they were racist idiots.

Posted by: oj at May 17, 2006 9:34 PM