May 4, 2006

A COALITION SHREDDER:

Growing Unease for Some Blacks on Immigration (RACHEL L. SWARNS, 5/04/06, NY Times)

[D]espite some sympathy for the nation's illegal immigrants, many black professionals, academics and blue-collar workers feel increasingly uneasy as they watch Hispanics flex their political muscle while assuming the mantle of a seminal black struggle for justice.

Some blacks bristle at the comparison between the civil rights movement and the immigrant demonstrations, pointing out that black protesters in the 1960's were American citizens and had endured centuries of enslavement, rapes, lynchings and discrimination before they started marching.

Others worry about the plight of low-skilled black workers, who sometimes compete with immigrants for entry-level jobs.

And some fear the unfinished business of the civil rights movement will fall to the wayside as America turns its attention to a newly energized Hispanic minority with growing political and economic clout.

"All of this has made me start thinking, 'What's going to happen to African-Americans?' " said Brendon L. Laster, 32, a black fund-raiser at Howard University here, who has been watching the marches. "What's going to happen to our unfinished agenda?"


A party built on a divergent coalition of interest groups can ill afford to benefit one group at the obvious expense of others, which is why anti-immigration is a natural Democratic position.


MORE:
Blacks slam immigration bias (Brian DeBose, May 4, 2006, THE WASHINGTON TIMES)

Black leaders say Mexicans and other Hispanic nationals are getting preferential immigration treatment, as the U.S. systematically turns away people from countries with largely African-descended populations, such as Jamaica and the Dominican Republic.

Foes of Foreigners Grow Vocal In Britain (Kevin Sullivan, 5/04/06, Washington Post)
The BNP declares itself "wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples." It seeks to restore the overwhelmingly white makeup of Britain before 1948; its leader has called Islam a "wicked, vicious faith." Support from people like Mitchell, a white mother of three whose political views otherwise appear generally mainstream, illustrates rising anti-immigration sentiment in Britain and across Europe.

Parties long dismissed by many as the racist fringe have become increasingly popular as governments that once freely accepted immigrants question how many more their nations can take.


We Jutlanders didn't ask the Brits permission before raping and pillaging our way across the isles.

Posted by Orrin Judd at May 4, 2006 7:50 AM
Comments

God this annoys me. The religion they dare not speak it's name. 'Anti-immigration sentiment'? This is about MUSLIMS MUSLIMS MUSLIMS MUSLIMS MUSLIMS.

The idiot press is preparing to rope in the whole immigrant population of the UK into this in order to create cover for the people who are the real problem. The DISQUIET IS WITH MUSLIMS, NOT OTHER IMMIGRANTS. Many UK immigrants come from countries like India and the Philippines that have Muslim populations on their borders, or virulent, murderous little islamic insurgencies, they hate the moon-worshiping vermin more than anyone.

The UK has absorbed millions of hard-working new citizens from all parts of it's old empire for the last half century, the ethnic demographic of many regions saw dramatic transformation. There were tensions, sometimes riots, and yet the BNP vote never topped 4%.

THIS. IS. ABOUT. MUSLIMS.

What part of human body parts splattered about train platforms don't these morons get? What part of that message is too subtle for them? What part of "death to the infidel" are they having trouble decoding?

If the government won't do something about that vicious, imbecilic religion metastasizing like cancer throughout the cities then people will hold their noses and vote for someone who will, even racist trash like the BNP.

The BNP is an opportunistic infection, the real desease is the towering stupidity of the political and media class. People look across the water to Paris, muslim thugs rampaging throughout it's suburbs, and Holland, with government ministers under 24 hour guard against murder and ask, seriously, is anyone awake? What part of this situation don't our idiot leaders understand?

Posted by: Amos at May 4, 2006 8:56 AM

Amos:

Nope, just racism. Note that they're particularly targeting neighborhoods with rising black populations.

Posted by: oj at May 4, 2006 9:01 AM

I have never said the BNP aren't old-school racist scum. I bet they are trying to push their whole agenda, riding this issue. Like I said, they are an opportunistic infection. They should never have entered the equation, the primary duty of government is to protect it's citizens. For the last two decades the PC leadership of Brittan turned London into one of the biggest jihadi hubs of the non-muslim world. Every islamist ranter, nutjob and loon was allowed to arrive, plead political asylum and set up shop, frequently all on the taxpayer dime.

The blood of sep7 is on the hands of Englandís leaders, those idiots may as well have set the bombs themselves. Now people are desperate, nothing, and mean nothing, seems to get through to the morons in charge. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Posted by: Amos at May 4, 2006 9:24 AM

The bombing doesn't matter--racism does.

Posted by: oj at May 4, 2006 9:27 AM

Remember Amos, if you disagree with oj on any issue concerning immigration or free trade you are a racist. OJ recently graduated from the Al Sharpton school of debate.

Here's some ammo for you Amos: oj proudly lives in the most racially homogeneous state in the union (ok, its tied with Maine), and he constantly extols the superiority of that state over more ethnically diverse regions of the U.S. Coincidence?

Posted by: Shelton at May 4, 2006 9:58 AM

Last Monday, I overheard a young black man of about 19 or 20 say to an Hispanic man as he passed him in the parking lot of our local county court house, "I'm an American, are you?" Then he looked at me, a white geezerette, smiled and kept on walking toward his car.

Do you think he might be one of the Judd bros?

Posted by: erp at May 4, 2006 9:59 AM

Shelton:

The only basis fo opposing the Dubai port deal was indeed xenophobic hysteria and folks who think voting for a racist anti-Semitic party like the BNP is a legitimate exercise are, by definition, racist.

Posted by: oj at May 4, 2006 10:05 AM

Notice how oj has now switched to black slang "fo" instead of "for", desperately trying to prove that he is down wit da bruthas. So pathetic.

Posted by: Shelton at May 4, 2006 10:18 AM

Shelton:

that's all you've got? typos? No wonder you support the BNP.

Posted by: oj at May 4, 2006 10:22 AM

I don't even know what the BNP is. Turn your sense of humor back on cracker.

Posted by: Shelton at May 4, 2006 10:31 AM

Ah, a voice of pure ignorance. I admire you for admitting it, ofay.

Posted by: oj at May 4, 2006 10:37 AM

Technically, Vermont is the most racially homogenous state in the Union, followed by ME and NH, unless that's changed recently. And the racially "progressive" Vermonters are always gnashing their teeth and beating their breasts over why more black people don't live here. "Maybe they think you're a bunch of nitwits?" is what I think, but don't say.

Posted by: Bryan at May 4, 2006 11:09 AM

Bryan, While we were living in Vermont, there was a hilarious story of a couple of black fugitives from the deep south who tried to hide out in rural Vermont. Needless to say they didn't pass for locals.


Posted by: erp at May 4, 2006 11:42 AM

Getting back to the original topic, that of immigation as a coalition-buster, I continue to be most apprehensive about how this all may shake out.

Our side has more to lose. By trying to split the difference, which is what they look like right now, the Republicans stand to lose from both sides. Anyone who doesn't see a nativist third party coming is dreaming.

The Democrats don't need to make sense on the issue, they only need to to survive to win.

It is true that the Black plantation-overseer class is disappointed at having its dreams of power as the doyens of an anti-white "minority-majority" shattered. That does not mean they will jump ship, however. Why should they, since the Republicans are no better for them on the immigration issue, and possibly worse.

The other elements of the Democrat coalition, queers, schoolteachers, peace-creeps, Comsymps, aren't going anywhere over this one either. Our side is the one facing the break-up. This is not good.

Posted by: Lou Gots at May 4, 2006 1:49 PM

We've survived nativist third parties without much trouble.

Posted by: oj at May 4, 2006 1:54 PM

Yah, the only reason they have any staying power is because of federal funding. Get rid of that, and they're back to one hit wonders.

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at May 4, 2006 2:22 PM
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