April 24, 2006

SOCIAL DARWINISM SCORES AGAIN:

Asexuals Unite (Traci Hukill, April 24, 2006, AlterNet)

What do you do if you're a self-proclaimed asexual and you fall in love with another asexual?

You cuddle and kiss and talk a lot. You go to dinner parties, bicker over movies, sleep in the same bed. Maybe you even snuggle up and spoon, the two of you curled up in a cozy double-S.

But it does not occur to you to make the beast with two backs. Your sexual congress is permanently adjourned. You're in love, you're just not making any.

That's more or less the explanation given by Paul Cox, a 21-year-old Long Island University student. While organizing meet ups of New York asexuals last year, Cox met a young woman from the Brooklyn group and started spending a lot of time with her. All his time, actually, and for months, until she pointed out that their friendship had blossomed into a romance. Cox didn't even realize what was happening. "She's the one who dragged it out of me and drilled it into my head," he says, still sounding a little baffled.

Sounds like normal male-female relations. Cox says everything about them is normal. "It's kind of amazing how little of a difference it makes that we're not actually sexually attracted to each other," he says. "The longer we're in this, the more trivial it seems."

The Asexuality Visibility and Education Network couldn't have said it better.


Their not mating is an act of mercy to the species.

Posted by Orrin Judd at April 24, 2006 9:01 AM
Comments

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Posted by: erp at April 24, 2006 9:59 AM

I don't know. It looks like a new step in an old dance to me. Adapting to DNA testing maybe?

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at April 24, 2006 11:05 AM

Look. I'm sorry to be naiive (and I know I don't want to Google 'asexual'), but what is an asexual human? Is this bloke lugging tackle, or what? Does asexual refer to their attitude or their being biological anomalies?

Posted by: TH at April 24, 2006 12:14 PM

Mother nature works in mysterious ways, but always balanced in the end. Environmental extremists need to understand that axiom, especially regarding climate.

Posted by: Genecis at April 24, 2006 12:57 PM

Well, TH, an asexual human seems to be one who does not define themselves by what they're 'sleeping' with. So labeled, they are targeted by those unhappy souls who have burned out sexually(and now get their jollies by dispoiling the innocent).

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at April 24, 2006 1:24 PM

They join the Shakers and those annoying pandas as groups that can be safely ignored until they non-breed themselves out of existence.

Posted by: Pete at April 24, 2006 7:35 PM

I knew a man like this. He was nice, but his wife was quite frustrated with him until she left him.

Posted by: sharon at April 24, 2006 8:32 PM

I love journalist double-talk: "A small but growing movement", translation: "Tiny number of kooks who are statistically insignificant and will remain so, but need to be talked up to explain why they justify a newspaper article".

Why is there no photo? I was interested in what they looked like, they're ugly, right? Given the choice between no sex and having it with a fat chick I choose no, so am I asexual?


I remember a discussion among friends about a mutual friend, a man, who has never dated anyone as far as any of us knows and who emanates no detectable sexual vibe. Confounded, we ruminated over the possibilities, Fer the love of God, he's ugly! This is rocket science? You can be gay, straight but not hideous? Women detest him, he feels humiliated by the dating scene, their disgust undermines his sense of self-esteem so he withdraws from a game he has no chance of winning. Meanwhile his so-called friends sit around and complement themselves on their own sexual precociousness while pretending to bewilderment as to what his problem is.

I’d love to tell this guy what his friends think of him, “Hey jackass, you know you’re pals are using you as a an ego-masturbation aid?”

Posted by: Amos at April 24, 2006 9:57 PM

Um.... I thought this was the new plan. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, right? This is the only right to choose men have, right? Why are you so suprised some men are making that choice?

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at April 24, 2006 10:19 PM

Amos:

Hideous men can get dates too, if they're funny, and especially if they're smart and funny.
Being rich is also helpful, and that's simple enough to do. (Simple, not easy).

Robert Mitchell:

There are also condoms, if you don't trust your partner to properly use birth control.

Being asexual is fine, but people are hardly being forced into it, and it's even more bizarre and abnormal than homosexuality.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 25, 2006 5:30 AM

Mr. Herdegen, thank you for your thoughts. Ummm...
First, condoms? you mean those little tubes with the 10% to 15% failure rate under the best conditions? when not being used in the dark, after staying up to 4 am 'getting her in the mood'? I think you are suggesting getting your tubes tied. Of course there's still a failure rate, until you have forgone sex for a year while your tests are run. Body mutalition in a quest for empty pleasure is not my idea of a good time. If you can do without sex for a year, I think you can go without sex until you are ready to have children.
And of course, when will you bring up the fact your tubes are tied? Seems rude to mention it on the first date, but I don't go out. Have the rules changed that much? But then how long will you string her along, before you tell her the relationship isn't going anywhere, and you will never be the father of her children. Seems cruel to string her along because you were horny...
Trust? She doesn't trust you, which is why she asked for, and got, abortion on demand.
Asexuals are bizarre and abnormal? When did responsibility become bizarre and abnormal? Did I miss a meeting? I when to several Catholic schools, and the Priests, Sisters, and Brothers I met were wonderful, caring and helpful. They were as a rule Joyful, and largely unburdened by the cares of the world. Something I rarely see in the outside world. If that's bizarre and abnormal, sign me up!

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at April 25, 2006 11:21 AM

As you point out, there are many options.
You just don't like any of them.

Others can live with 'em.

Of course asexual people are abnormal.
If they were normal, the human race would never have lasted beyond the first generation.

From what you've posted in this forum, it seems clear that you've already signed up, and are quite proud of it.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 25, 2006 11:53 AM

Mr. Herdegen, again, thank you for your thoughts.
I haven't 'signed up', it just seems to be the least bad position in this legal setting. Children are the debt we own Creation and our first duty to our parents, once we are adults. I have not paid that debt, and it pains me. But, it would unbearable for me to stand and watch somebody kill my child. The fires of creation don't burn strongly enought for me to take a one in five chance of destroying my soul.
As long as we have abortion on demand, my choices seem to be sterile pig or untouched. If I viewed people as objects, abortion wouldn't be such an issue for me, and I could go looking for truffles.
If you are talking about biology, asexual men are quite normal, and probable the majority of men
for most of the life of the species. Normal would be one Alpha male with his harem of females. One man married to one women is an artifice of civilization, and it's breaking down. Brave new world, same as the old one.

Posted by: Robert Mitchell Jr. at April 25, 2006 12:25 PM

Well, I'm all for the harem idea, since I'd be an Alpha in most societies, but unfortunately it turns out that maximizing the number of married men is better for civilization than letting the top 10% of men have all of the women. *sigh*

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 26, 2006 4:31 AM

Okay Michael, how 'bout a picture of you as alpha male.

Posted by: erp at April 26, 2006 5:50 PM

lol

Not based on looks, that's for sure.
Picture a slightly less-hairy Gimli from Lord of the Rings.
But it is said that I'm extremely funny,(at least in person - my attempts at humor online usually fall flat), and I'm a warrior who will not quit.
In fact, Horatius Cocles is a personal hero of mine.

If it's looks that you want, my youngest brother is the spitting image of Matt Damon.
If it's a buff bod that you prefer, another brother of mine just set a new world record for speed in long-distance running.

So, at worst, I'd be an Alpha-by-association - sometimes it is "who you know" that counts.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 26, 2006 9:03 PM
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