April 10, 2006

COMPETING FOR IMMIGRANTS:

Police seek recruits from eastern Europe (MICHAEL HOWIE, 4/10/06, The Scotsman)

POLICE officers from Poland, Latvia and other eastern European countries could soon be patrolling Scotland's streets under radical recruitment plans being drawn up by chief constables.
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The Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland (ACPOS) is to investigate ways of recruiting officers directly from police forces in recent EU accession states.

Chief constables hope the strategy will help to deal with a recruitment shortfall over the next few years, as the number of retiring officers soars to record levels.


The most amusing thing about the current nativist hysteria is that it comes just at the moment when economic and demographic realities are giving the immigrants the whip hand as regards where they'll agree to go work.

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Help wanted, but stay out: U.S. immigration debate plays out across Minnesota (JIM RAGSDALE and RICK LINSK, 4/02/06, Pioneer Press)

The United States did its best to keep German Morales from entering the country.

Border Patrol agents captured him, fingerprinted him, trundled him back to Mexico, over and over, until he burrowed under a border fence, survived a wild police chase and landed, with a fresh set of fake documents, in St. Paul.

Where the Minnesota economy promptly welcomed him as a new employee. And where he is still working, legally now 10 years later, as foreman of a landscaping firm that might not make it without workers like him.

The United States says "Alto!" or "Halt!" at the border, but Minnesota employers say "Bienvenidos!" or "Welcome!" once an immigrant arrives in the hiring office.

The lure of U.S. employment, offering pay many times higher than Morales could earn in his hometown of Morelia, Mexico, has long been a powerful magnet that draws workers north to clean our offices, lay sod in our new suburbs, butcher hogs for our table, clamber up on our roofs and wash dishes in our finer restaurants.

But now, as federal and state officials, including Gov. Tim Pawlenty and the Minnesota Legislature, discuss whether to crack down on or welcome illegal workers, the system has all but given up trying to keep them out of the workplace.

And while Minnesota sends out mixed signals, the immigrants have settled in.

They have formed families, filled pews and helped build up thriving Latino business districts.

Posted by Orrin Judd at April 10, 2006 8:37 AM
Comments

[T]the immigrants [will have] the whip hand as regards where they'll agree to go work.

They will have more opportunities, but that's not the same thing as a seller's market.

Continental Europe has needed workers for some time now, and their current immigrants have proven to be rather problematic.
Yet, we don't see European recruiters working Mexico or Haiti.

There are plenty of Mexicans who would like to work in a first-world nation, but the U.S. are close and cheap to get to, leading to easy immigration for extremely poor people, and allows regular home visits.
The U.S. also have a massive support structure for Hispanics, legal or not.

Europe has none of those features.

There may well be intense competition among a small group of nations to attract immigrants from certain select areas, but neither America nor Canada will have to work hard to attract immigrants, and there will still be large groups of potential emigrants that nobody really wants.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 10, 2006 9:56 AM

Michael:

Yes, we do see them doing so.

Posted by: oj at April 10, 2006 10:03 AM

Great !

The American struggle over immigration will end, as Europe and Japan steal away the 40 million Mexicans that might have gone to the U.S. instead.

Right ?

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 10, 2006 11:22 AM

No, they can't offer enough incentives to peel away too many. After all, they'll have to tax young workers at exorbitant levels to fund their welfare states.

Posted by: oj at April 10, 2006 12:51 PM

The US is exceptional as always. We don't have to compete. The best will always come here.

Posted by: b at April 10, 2006 1:05 PM

They are illegal, right? That's the point, I think.

Posted by: sharon at April 10, 2006 8:27 PM

No, they are necessary is the point.

Posted by: oj at April 10, 2006 8:30 PM

Not necessary if they are illegal. If they are necessary, then do it legally. Otherwise, it is not only a slap in the face to all those waiting for legal immigration but an encouragement for more illegals and a depression on wages.

Posted by: sharon at April 10, 2006 11:03 PM

Yes, we obviously need to make them legal. That's the point.

Posted by: oj at April 10, 2006 11:08 PM

It doesn't matter if they are here illegally. What matters is how can we fix the problem. If you think the solution is to round up all of the workers and their families and march them across a newly created concrete, steel and razor wire border, you have to start thinking about how many dead bodies are acceptable. You need to start thinking about how many of YOUR civil liberties you are willing to give up. How much do you want YOUR life and liberty to change.

The illegal immigrant problem is like the war on drugs and the war on terror multiplied by a thousand. There is no removal solution that won't result in the US becoming a fascist police state. Hell, they are already talking about Worker ID cards and a centralized "allowed workers" database. That system only works if EVERYONE has an ID card, including people born and raised in the US.

Posted by: Xmas at April 11, 2006 11:45 AM
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