March 5, 2006


Should liberals leave Catholic Church? (Joan Vennochi, March 5, 2006, Boston Globe)

THE RED CARDINAL'S hat on its way to Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley sends a clear message to liberal Catholics who still hope the Catholic Church will shift their way: It isn't shifting. [...]

Liberals raised as Catholics...think we can be prochoice, pro-gay marriage , pro-gay adoption, and in favor of married and female priests and still call ourselves Catholic. The people who make the rules say we don't meet the criteria.

Every pronouncement from Pope Benedict XVI draws another line between official church doctrine and liberal ideology. When do liberals choose one side or the other?

You can't be a moral relativist and be faithful to the God of Abraham, Moses, and Christ at the same time.

Posted by Orrin Judd at March 5, 2006 9:58 AM

It seems typical of liberals that they cannot abide making a choice or accepting the consequences of their beliefs. Surely there is some clever rhetoric that can avoid the necessity of consequences.

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at March 5, 2006 10:35 AM

Not just liberals. The Darwinist Right insists it can derive morality without God, trying not to choose:

Posted by: oj at March 5, 2006 10:39 AM

I hardly think that list is comprehensive. What about sex before marriage? Quick and easy and numerous divorces? Euthenasia? Assisted suicide?

Posted by: RC at March 5, 2006 11:20 AM

Hey, lib-Caths, look on the bright side, the Episcopal church would be glad to have you. And they even have openly homosexual bishops.

As for Ms. Vennochi, did she really expect that the AB of Boston would not get a red hat? Who was the last AB of B to not become a Cardinal?

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at March 5, 2006 11:29 AM

The church in Rome thinks in centuries, not in news cycles. It isn't budging.

That's not a bug, it's a feature.

Posted by: Mike Morley at March 5, 2006 11:52 AM

Joan's kind of a modern day version of Henry VIII, minus the power to go out and create her own church to get her way (Meanwhile, the church Hank created hasn't been doing so hot lately dealing with moral decisions, has it?)

Posted by: John at March 5, 2006 12:20 PM

Hasn't she already left the church mentally, by deciding not to have any principles?

Posted by: Steve at March 5, 2006 1:57 PM

I find Vennochi's construction "Liberals raised as Catholics" interesting and the possible alternatives to that formulation worth a post in itself, Orrin.

Care to oblige?

Posted by: Dusty at March 5, 2006 3:25 PM


I agree. She makes it sound like being liberal (from the womb?) is akin to nobility, while enduring Catholicism is like suffering torture.

Forget Episcopalianism, she should just go all the way and become a Unitarian.

Posted by: jim hamlen at March 6, 2006 8:25 AM

Nice one, Jim.

Posted by: Dusty at March 6, 2006 12:20 PM