February 11, 2006

WHAT DO THEY THINK WE'RE CRUSADING FOR?:

Air Force Eases Rules on Religion: New Guidelines Reflect Evangelicals' Criticism, General Says (Alan Cooperman, 2/10/06, Washington Post)

The Air Force, under pressure from evangelical Christian groups and members of Congress, softened its guidelines on religious expression yesterday to emphasize that superior officers may discuss their faith with subordinates and that chaplains will not be required to offer nonsectarian prayers.

"This does affirm every airman's right, even the commanders' right, to free exercise of religion, and that means sharing your faith," said Maj. Gen. Charles C. Baldwin, the Air Force's chief of chaplains.

The guidelines were first issued in late August after allegations that evangelical Christian commanders, coaches and cadets at the Air Force Academy had pressured cadets of other faiths. The original wording sought to tamp down religious fervor and to foster tolerance throughout the Air Force. It discouraged public prayers at routine events and warned superior officers that personal expressions of faith could be misunderstood as official statements.

But evangelical groups, such as the Colorado-based Focus on the Family, saw the guidelines as overly restrictive.

Posted by Orrin Judd at February 11, 2006 2:23 PM
Comments

warned superior officers that personal expressions of faith could be misunderstood as official statements.

Oh we can't have that! What's the point of achieving superior officer status if you can't use it to make official statements of religious dogma?

Posted by: Robert Duquette at February 11, 2006 2:35 PM

The first amendment applies to both speech and religion. How about that! Next thing you know someone will bring up the history of sectarian military chaplains and the damage they've done to our boys in harms way. "Keep those rosaries of our...whatever".

Posted by: Tom C., Stamford,Ct. at February 11, 2006 3:53 PM

"Fox holes"

Posted by: Mike Beversluis at February 11, 2006 4:13 PM

Here's my full reply.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at February 11, 2006 4:25 PM

It is noteworthy that the article never mentioned two things:

1. There is no free speech in the military.

2. Religious tests for offices of public trust in the US are strictly prohibited. (US Constitution, Article VI).

On that ground alone, officers' expression of personal religious belief are completely out of bounds.

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 13, 2006 8:06 AM

Yes, soldiers have no right not to be exposed to certain speech and there is no test being applied.

Posted by: oj at February 13, 2006 8:19 AM

Soldiers have no right to use their commission to preach their religion to a captive audience. Anyone who doesn't understand that has no business being in the military.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at February 13, 2006 11:24 AM

Our soldiers are fighting for that religion--it's important that they be united behind it.

Posted by: oj at February 13, 2006 12:53 PM

OJ:

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the Constition:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do Ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 13, 2006 2:27 PM

BTW, you also completely misunderstand free speech as it applies to the military.

As I mentioned above, there is no such thing.

In its place is "equal speech."

Should the military allow a Captain Dobson, it must also allow Captain Dawkins.

One can only imagine the shrill evangelical whining in the event.

There is no stench quite so nauseating as that of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 13, 2006 2:29 PM

No, we don't have to allow anything. We do encourage Evangelicals.

Posted by: oj at February 13, 2006 4:07 PM

The military was not extablished to defend Christianity, it was established to defend the United States and its Constitution, which never mentions God. You have to be wilfully obtuse, or disingenuous, not to get the distinction.

We encourage more than evangelicals.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at February 13, 2006 5:31 PM

The military exists to secure the Blessings of Liberty.

Commanders have never had much trouble understanding that they're Crusaders:

Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!

You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The
hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you.
In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on
other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war
machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of
Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.

Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.

But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of
1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats,
in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their
strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home
Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions
of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men.
The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to
Victory!

I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in
battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory!

Good luck! And let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great
and noble undertaking.


SIGNED: Dwight D. Eisenhower, 6 June 1944

Posted by: oj at February 13, 2006 5:43 PM

OJ:

Why do you keep altering and deleting my posts?

[Lack of interest.]

Posted by: Jeff Guinn at February 14, 2006 9:23 AM
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