February 9, 2006

THE FUTURE HAPPENS FAST:

Automakers fast-track ethanol use (Sharon Silke Carty, 2/08/06, USA TODAY)

Hoping to capitalize on the buzz over using homegrown alcohol fuel instead of gasoline, auto rivals General Motors and Ford Motor both said here Wednesday that they're teaming with energy companies on projects that could make so-called E85 a mainstream fuel instead of a boutique rarity.

At this rate we can cut the subsidies and John McCain will win IA, meaning the race ends in NH.

Posted by Orrin Judd at February 9, 2006 10:53 AM
Comments

I read a recent article on E85, and it mentioned that there was an additional expense for engines that could burn both it and gas. Turns out the extra cost was about $250.00. This seems very small to me and could easily be eliminated through efficiencies of scale if it became standard. I'm not sure what gas stations would need to do to convert a tank over to E85, but if it's relatively low this seems like a very common sense move.

Posted by: Chris Durnell at February 9, 2006 11:02 AM

Eliminate sugar subsidies/price supports and incentivize cane farmers/refiners to produce alcohol and we'll have done ourselves a great favor.

Hopefully, mixes other than e85, such as e65 and e50 could be introduced for greater milage efficiency and provide consumers with a choice.

Posted by: Genecis at February 9, 2006 11:09 AM

Huh? From the article:

E85's drawback is reduced fuel economy. For example, GM's 2006 Chevrolet Impala sedan is rated 21 mpg in town, 31 on the highway using gasoline, but only 16 and 23 mpg on E85.

That had better not be true: 16/21 and 23/31 are about 75%; that means they're getting fewer miles out of the 85/15 gasoline/ethanol mix than they would out of the 85% gasoline alone if they burned it!

Posted by: Mike Earl at February 9, 2006 12:28 PM

But Mike Earl, the article states E85 is 15% gasoline and 85% ethanol. To drive 31 E85 miles you would only burn 20% of a gallon of gasoline ... less than a quart. That's the whole point of the program ... to send fewer dollars overseas and achieve cleaner air ... as a bonus.

Posted by: Genecis at February 9, 2006 5:30 PM

Genecis:

Ah, somehow I read it as 85/15 the other way. That's a lot more reasonable.

Posted by: Mike Earl at February 9, 2006 5:33 PM

The problem still remains - how are you going to generate enough Ethanol to make even a fraction of this possible?

Posted by: AWW at February 9, 2006 9:02 PM

AWW, Is doing nothing an option? Let's get started and see what develops. See our latest trade deficit numbers. Better yet, follow the money.

Posted by: Genecis at February 10, 2006 6:45 PM
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