January 24, 2006

SPEAKING OF BLACKS VS. LATINOS... (via Glenn Dryfoos):

Sharon Robinson: honor Clemente some other way (Associated Press, 1/24/06)

The Hispanics Across America advocacy group wants Clemente's number set aside the way the late Robinson's No. 42 was nine years ago. But Sharon Robinson said that honor should remain for her father only.

"To my understanding, the purpose of retiring my father's number is that what he did changed all of baseball, not only for African-Americans but also for Latinos, so I think that purpose has been met," Robinson told the newspaper at a birthday celebration for her father in Times Square. "When you start retiring numbers across the board, for all different groups, you're kind of diluting the original purpose."

Karl Rove will have the President come out in favor of this by lunchtime.

Posted by Orrin Judd at January 24, 2006 11:32 AM

The mistake was retiring Robinson's number
in the first place.

What follows is just absurd comedy.

Posted by: J.H. at January 24, 2006 11:58 AM

they need to know their place, eh?

Posted by: oj at January 24, 2006 12:01 PM

The headline I sent OJ for this was: "What about Shamsky?"

Posted by: Foos at January 24, 2006 1:30 PM

Roberto Clemente was my favorite ball player when I was growing up. He's worthy of the honor, as are others.

Posted by: Mike Morley at January 24, 2006 1:31 PM

The first latino in the Majors was Luis Castro, an infielder who played in 42 games with the Philadelphia Athletics in 1902.

Personally, I think Cuban outfielder named Orestes "Minnie" Minoso, who became the first ballplayer to play in five different decades would be a better choice.

(Not to forget Jose Canseco, who was the first latino to hit 400 homers, and become a total whacko)

Posted by: h-man at January 24, 2006 1:43 PM

What happens when they run out of two digit numbers?

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at January 24, 2006 9:26 PM

They can always go to fractions, although 1/8 may be retired as well (Eddie Gaedel), I don't know.

Posted by: ratbert at January 24, 2006 9:47 PM

Some ballparks still don't serve tacos. Why not address that injustice first?

Posted by: Carter at January 25, 2006 12:38 AM

Ah, ethnic cracks, soon to be followed by denials that anti-immigrationism is about ethnicity....

Posted by: oj at January 25, 2006 12:43 AM

Different ethinic groups have different effects on the prevailing culture, and it follows that some will be more damaging (or less beneficial) than others.

Unless of course your position is that we are incapable of making such distinctions because all cultures equal. If they are equal, why do you go on and on about the superiority of American culture.

Posted by: h-man at January 25, 2006 6:56 AM


Ethnicity isn't culture.

Posted by: oj at January 25, 2006 7:12 AM

Shamsky? What about Moe Berg?

Posted by: jim hamlen at January 25, 2006 8:27 AM

I oppose immigration because I don't think it benefits citizens of the United States. The "Hispanics Across America advocacy group" is an organization which is made up of and explicity attempts to advance the interests of an ethnic group, which favors mass immigration of that ethnic group, and is trying to coerce the recognition of Clemente because of his ethnicity. You claim to be in favor of assimilation, if so you should be condemning groups like these for their ethnic seperatism.

Posted by: Carter at January 25, 2006 2:41 PM


Yes, I support Hispanic immigration specifically because of what they are. The point is that you folk oppose it because of who they are.

Posted by: oj at January 25, 2006 5:46 PM
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