. . . but have the same amount die from a flu vaccine or vioxx, the Left would rant for its immediate withdrawal from the market.

And their buddies the trial liars would be salivating as they filed their legal briefs.

Any drug that causes the inside of the uterus to come off is likely to have serious side effects. It has been interesting seeing the push to make this OTC, while medicines with far less serious side effects are criticized far more, as obc notes.

We tremble at the thought that one who has raised her hand against her unborn child may have died in the midst of her sin.

Lk. 12:4 "And I say unto you, my friends, Be not afraid of them that can kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do."

It would be useful to know how many women had taken the drug during this period to get some idea of the rate of complications, for comparison with other drugs.

Posted by: jd watson at December 30, 2005 10:06 PM

What company manufactures the drug, and what else do they sell?
Both parties pockets are lined with money from the pharmaceutical industries, the defense contractors, the oil and energy companies, and others that pretty much make both parties identical to each other except for the mock battles they stage for the public to feel as if it isn't the corporations that are really running this country.

. . . yada, yada, yada.

obc, you disagree that the pharm industry greases the pockets of both parties? Or you don't care?

I remember correctly, during the discussions on making RU-486 legal in the US, it was brought up that it was not a prescription drug in Holy Mother France. Because of the complications which included hemmorhage., it was an inpatient procedure requiring a two day stay. The company producing it insisted, to no avail, that the same be done here, but instead because of Leftist pressure, it was approved for simple prescription use. (And I forget but isn't now practically out on the shelves with all the other contraceptives?)

Not surprising that all this history was swept under the rug and that people like grog's first reaction is to blame the pharmacy companies. Or that he'd be accusing them of some vague sort of corruption for doing exactly what he and his buddies demanded of them. Just another example of how the Left never taking responsibility for anything.

That should start "If I remember correctly..."

Ok, lets talk about Vioxx, anyone want to?

In comparison to other drugs, and illegal abortions, RU-486 is remarkably safe.
This news report is meant to stir up the emotions of pro-lifers so they can say "see, I told you so."
If only they weren't so narrow-minded in their analysis of our current affairs of legal drugs.

So 5 people die and the FDA issues a report? Anyone find this even slightly politically motivated?

Of course it's politically motivated, the FDA is first and foremost a political organization.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at December 31, 2005 2:56 AM

Grog;

Every time the pills are taken, people die.

Grog: Corporations don't exist. You might as well worry about the magic pixies who control the government. Vioxx, of course, is a remarkably safe and effective medication.

I see Grog hasn't gotten new material to greet the new year. Evil corporations and the military/industrial complex seem quaintly old-fashioned, but I digress.

Grog, instead of talking about Vioxx, let's talk about Bextra which I know a little about. Like Vioxx was taken off the market because of bunch of busy-body do-gooders and their comrades-in-arms, the trial lawyers made claims about its safety record that were grossly distorted.

I hope these ceaseless workers for the public good never grow older because if they do, their joints, especially their knees, may stiffen up and it may hurt a lot when they try to move around and if such a thing happens to them, they won't have access to a relatively safe drug that restores freedom of movement. On a related subject, Grog, your friends also forced physicians to stop prescribing HRT for millions of post menopausal women who had taken hormone replacement with good results, citing studies that also turned out to be grossly misrepresented. This ban caused unnecessary discomfort and may have contributed to other medical conditions that hormone replacement helped keep in check.

So Grog, because of people like you who think you are taking the high road, people like me are having a harder time coping with the problems of aging. Problems that had already been solved satisfactorily by those pharmaceutical companies for which you have so much contempt.

Thanks a lot and happy new year to you and all you friends in moonbatland.

Grog;

I agree with your assessment of this particular issue. If only you and your ilk had the same attitude with the other pharmacueticals mentioned in this thread. What is the difference? Can you explain it to me?

erp:

Look into fish oil. It may help with stiffness.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at December 31, 2005 3:01 PM

Thanks Michael. I do take fish oil and Glucosamine/Chondroitin and other magic potions, but I still can't move around with anything like a normal gait. You can't imagine how infuriating it is when people with huge political agendas are making it difficult for me, as well as lots of others, to walk without pain.

Let's see, whom to trust? Grog and his fellows who are a plague on the earth or research scientists (some of whom are family members) and drug companies who've brought relief and healing to millions????

Wow! That's one tough choice.

So, the left wants us to be able to buy abortion drugs OTC, but we can't buy real Sudafed unless we ask the pharmacist?

i believe that what is sold here isn't ru-486. that's what i have been told, anyway.

so grog, are all your clothes hand made, your diet consists of berries and grubs, and you only listen to music you make yourself ? or are you just another leftists hypocrite ? what's the biggest drum circle you've ever participated in ?