December 2, 2005


Dems Back Saddam Hussein in New Poll (NewsMax, 12/02/05)

Democrats have given Saddam Hussein a shocking vote of confidence in the latest Fox News Opinion Dynamics survey, with a solid plurality saying the world would be better off if the Butcher of Baghdad was still in power.

Forty-one percent of Democrats gave Saddam a thumbs up, while just 34 percent said Iraq is better served with the murderous dictator gone, reports the New York Post.

In stark contrast, 78 percent of Republicans said toppling the mass-murdering leader left everyone better off. Just 10 percent said they wished Saddam still ruled Iraq.

That makes the divide between the two parties a bit too clear.

It's propaganda time (Walter Jajko, December 2, 2005, LA Times0

CRITICS OF THE Iraq war are outraged over the revelation that the U.S. military has been paying millions of dollars to plant pro-American, Pentagon-written propaganda articles in Iraqi newspapers and to buy off Iraqi journalists with monthly stipends.

But in my opinion, it's about time. Information is a critical part of any war, and the U.S. has for too long — to its own detriment — ignored this powerful and essential tool, a tool especially well-suited to the globalized Information Age.

Even third-rate countries routinely use information and disinformation as an instrument of foreign policy, often against the United States. The U.S., in turn, cannot win the war of ideas by speaking softly or keeping its mouth shut. But we have been doing just that.

It seems unsafe to assume that critics want to win the war of ideas or even see America more than a fourth-rate country.

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 2, 2005 9:32 AM

Not bad timing for the Dems -- after Tookie bites the dust, there will be a space open in the celebrity prisoner pantheon next to Mumia.

Posted by: John at December 2, 2005 9:53 AM


Posted by: erp at December 2, 2005 9:56 AM

Dennis Kucinich should try to convince Saddam to run in 2008 (presuming he is still alive) as a protest candidate. One thing is for sure - Al Sharpton won't be dissing him on stage (at least, not standing right next to him).

Posted by: jim hamlen at December 2, 2005 9:56 AM

Well, perhaps we should be thankful their Iraq strategy is simply that we cut and run. If they were listening to their base they would want us to stay as long as it takes to get Saddam BACK in power.

Posted by: MGNC at December 2, 2005 9:57 AM

At least those who say they'd prefer the genocidal dictator Saddam to still be in control of the lives and futures of the Iraqi people are maintaining a consistent position (the lesser of two evils argument). They're just now starting to realise the moral quandary they've got themselves into.

The ones who say they opposed the invasion only on the grounds that it wasn't likely to be as good as it should be, are just unintelligible.

Posted by: Brit at December 2, 2005 10:21 AM


Erp, assuming the question mark is for me -- Tookie, the latest cause celeb among the trendy left is getting close to meeting his maker, which will leave an opening in the list of political causes to champion. Meanwhile judging by this poll, it sounds like the natural end result of the current Saddam trial for the left is the Ramsey Clark default position -- the case was rigged from the start, and the U.S. is the real villian here for invading a sovergin nation.

Carry that to its logical conclusion and Saddam takes his place among the left's political prisoner icons, though unlike Mumia, if he's found guilty I don't expect the case to go through a quarter-century of appeals before final judgment is carried out.

Posted by: John at December 2, 2005 10:52 AM


Posted by: obc at December 2, 2005 2:10 PM

John. Not for you. I totally agree. My ? was for us all.

I started to write a comment, but a picture of one of those mass graves with children still hugging their stuffed animals flashed through my mind and just choked me, so I couldn't write more.

We kid around about Kool-Aid drinking moonbats, but those people polled either don't know who Saddam is and what he's done, or they're insane and should be institutionalized.

Posted by: erp at December 2, 2005 3:38 PM

They're secular--why would they care about anything beyond themselves?

Posted by: oj at December 2, 2005 3:44 PM

Those people are selfish. Cheer up erp, you still have us.

Posted by: AllenS at December 2, 2005 5:03 PM


Posted by: Genecis at December 2, 2005 5:54 PM


Posted by: Genecis at December 2, 2005 5:54 PM

Folk-enemies, culture-traitors. What could we have expected?

They are so blinded by hatred of America as to be oblivious to evil. Nothing matters to them except their hatred.

So be it! Change nothing for them--let them choke in their rage.

Posted by: Lou Gots at December 2, 2005 8:55 PM

I always love the description of Saddam as secular. Leaving aside the Koranic verse he had put onto the Iraqi flag, the guy was having a Koran written in his own blood.

If W had the Gospel written in his blood, would the left suddenly agree that he was wholly secular and would never make common cause with religious fanatics?

Posted by: David Cohen at December 2, 2005 11:05 PM


He was just playing them.

Posted by: oj at December 3, 2005 1:25 AM

it was actually pig's blood (for the koran). i know that was naughty but i couldn't help myself. people just don't get my humor...

Posted by: saddam's toe at December 3, 2005 11:25 AM

OJ: That's the point.

Posted by: David Cohen at December 3, 2005 6:04 PM