December 19, 2005

THE FARTHER WE FALL BEHIND THE FURTHER WE PULL AHEAD:

Does the US face an engineering gap?: A new study deflates claims that China and India have a vast advantage in graduates. (Mark Clayton, 12/20/05, The Christian Science Monitor)

By making more specific comparisons, US competitiveness, as measured by newly minted engineers, is not eroding as fast as many say - if it's eroding at all, according to a Duke University study released last week. "Inconsistent reporting of problematic engineering graduation data has been used to fuel fears that America is losing its technological edge," the study states. "A comparison of like-to-like data suggests that the US produces a highly significant number of engineers, computer scientists, and information technology specialists, and remains competitive in global markets." [...]

India provides the clearest example of how the numbers can be interpreted differently. The 350,000 engineers that it supposedly graduated last year is almost certainly false. After publishing that number in October, the National Academies revised it downward to 200,000 in a note issued last month. The Duke study pegs the number at 215,000, but it also points out that nearly half of those are three-year diplomas - not the four-year degrees counted in the US.
More four-year diplomas than India

Last year, the US awarded bachelor's degrees to 72,893 engineering students, according to the American Society for Engineering Education. But using India's more inclusive definition, the Duke study finds the US handed out 137,437 bachelor's degrees last year, more than India's 112,000. The US number is far more impressive in relative terms, since India has more than three times as many people.

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 19, 2005 5:58 PM
Comments

"America is losing its technological edge!" is a scam that the scientific establishment pulls out every few years, and has done so for the last half-century. It's not to be taken seriously, considering that even if universities banned foreign citizens, there would still be far more applicants for graduate assistantships & postdocs than available positions. The thing that makes this surplus so inexplicable is that these people are voluntarily sacrificing about 75% of the salary they could be making in the private sector...

Posted by: b at December 19, 2005 6:48 PM

They become engineers because it offers a decent chance of getting work overseas and the domestic economy offers very little else in terms of economic opportunities.

Posted by: Ali Choudhury at December 19, 2005 6:52 PM

The fundamental flaw here is that in an information economy, smart engineers in other countries makes us richer. It's hard for me to view it as a problem, even though I work in that field.

Posted by: Annoying Old Guy at December 19, 2005 7:56 PM

We could - and should - double the number of US graduates by allowing more student and work visas. Many such become US citizens - our intellectual tax on the world.

b: basic science funding was chopped in the eighties. But besides atom smashers, there are areas, for instance, polymer science, where the US is far behind the Japanese. However, Japanese taxpayers paid heavily for this, and hence subsidized the cost of our Toyotas.

Posted by: Mike Beversluis at December 19, 2005 8:37 PM

Ali: I was talking about the surplus of Americans willing to go to grad school...

Posted by: b at December 19, 2005 11:48 PM
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