December 9, 2005

RETURNING THE CONSEQUENCES TO ACTIONS:

NHS may not treat smokers, drinkers or obese (Celia Hall, 09/12/2005, Daily Telegraph)

People who are grossly overweight, who smoke heavily or drink excessively could be denied surgery or drugs following a decision by a Government agency yesterday.

The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) which advises on the clinical and cost effectiveness of treatments for the NHS, said that in some cases the "self-inflicted" nature of an illness should be taken into account.

But the report bars any discrimination against patients on grounds of age alone.


You don't have a choice about growing old, the rest is avoidable.

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 9, 2005 12:00 AM
Comments

People who are grossly overweight, who smoke heavily or drink excessively could be denied surgery or drugs...

Excellent.

I'd be willing to spend tax dollars on putting these people through behavior modification courses.

Of course, in the U.S., if everyone eligible signed up for such, we'd be putting ten million people through rehab...

But it'd be worth the many billions in the long run, probably in the near run as well.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 9, 2005 10:14 AM

So, if they can't get any treatment, does that mean they can opt of paying into the system?

Posted by: Gary C at December 9, 2005 10:34 AM

Gary:

You can't get out of responsibilities by dodging even more of them.

Posted by: oj at December 9, 2005 10:38 AM

"[I]n some cases, the 'self-inflicted' nature of the illness should be taken into account."

Of course this must apply to the unspeakable crime against nature, or is that to be an exception for which those not engasging in the high-risk behavior must continue to underwrite.

Posted by: Lou Gots at December 9, 2005 11:27 AM

Do you think they'll refuse to treat AIDS? Probably not.

Posted by: Robert Duquette at December 9, 2005 5:28 PM

Why should you be forced to pay into a system that refuses to treat you?

Posted by: Gary at December 9, 2005 5:42 PM

It's an obligation of citizenship.

Posted by: oj at December 9, 2005 8:18 PM

Robert:

But they should refuse--all STDs.

Posted by: oj at December 9, 2005 8:20 PM

interesting take on things. glad to see you aren't one of those small minded people who insist on consistency.

Posted by: schiavo's ghost at December 9, 2005 10:25 PM

So - the guy who wants us all to be forced to intermingle also wants us to not treat STDs ?

Is this some kind of overarching plan to lower life expectancy, so that we all meet in Heaven faster ?

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 10, 2005 6:29 AM

Michael:

Just a disincentive for sin.

Posted by: oj at December 10, 2005 7:25 AM
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