December 28, 2005

OBLIGATORY CASTRO COMPARISON:

The Castro show just keeps getting weirder (ANA MENENDEZ, 12/27/05, Miami Herald)

Poor Fidel. It's not easy being a dictator these days, not when your sworn enemy has stolen your playbook and recast it as democracy. How sad it must be to come up with all these creative governing principles -- listening in on private phone calls, reading personal mail, secretly video-taping protestors -- only to live long enough to see a third-rate intelligence like George W. Bush adopt them all as his own. It's enough to drive anyone nuts.

At least she's honest about suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 28, 2005 4:03 PM
Comments

If Bush = Castro, shouldn't the left be very happy?

Posted by: jdkelly at December 28, 2005 4:39 PM

No. They know what Castro does to people he doesn't like.

Posted by: joe shropshire at December 28, 2005 4:47 PM

Good point. I guess they don't care if he does ot to the Cubans, though.

Posted by: jdkelly at December 28, 2005 5:02 PM

Menendez is one of those immigrants so vital to America's future.

Posted by: Carter at December 28, 2005 5:07 PM

carter:

Boy, you've really got your hate on today. Of course, she isn't actually anymore an immigrant than you, but....

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 5:10 PM

Unlike Miss Menendez I was born here, and I grew up thinking of myself as an American, not as a Cuban. It's interesting how when anything less than hagiographic is said about immigrants it's automatically labelled "hate". It suggests mass immigration is incompatible with free speech, and will ultimately lead to censorship.

Posted by: Carter at December 28, 2005 6:07 PM

Nothing you said was hateful, but to rephrase it, I'll say she was born in LA, of Cuban exile parents.

Posted by: h-man at December 28, 2005 6:16 PM

Carter:

Yes, the point is she too was born here but you assume she wasn't, just judging her by her name. That's what nativism does to people. It should be censored, like all hate speech, but isn't likely to be.

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 6:35 PM

I assumed she wasn't because she's always talking about her "cuban identity".

We had better censor the Federalist Papers as it's full of "nativist" "hate speech":

"Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs"

Posted by: Carter at December 28, 2005 7:10 PM

Speaking of censorship.

Posted by: h-man at December 28, 2005 7:14 PM

h:

Yes, we require decency.

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 7:41 PM

carter:

Which appeared in a New Amsterdam paper. Nativism has a terrific intellectual pedigree and we've always ignored it in practice.

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 7:43 PM

Carter: Although oddly that was nonsense when it was written.

Posted by: David Cohen at December 28, 2005 7:47 PM

Here's Ben Franklin sounding like you guys:

http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/franklin_benjamin_on_population.html

Here's how his warning worked out:

http://www-lib.iupui.edu/kade/nameword/map1.html

And, of course, during WWII, FDR rounded up the Japs, not the 60 million Krauts.

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 7:54 PM

Geez, Decency? Listen I'm an artist, but anyway, it wasn't practical for FDR to identify the Krauts, they looked just like Brits, Mormons and Jews. The Japanese (easily identifiable) were a "potential" problem that could be solved quickly and HUMANELY.

Posted by: h-man at December 28, 2005 8:22 PM

David: Oddly, no it wasn't. You can look up the census data.

OJ: Franklin wrote that in 1751. When the Seven Years War began in 1756 German immigration came to a halt. Subsequent immigration rates were low after the Revolutionary War until 1851. So I don't see how it's relevant unless one is arguing in favor of restricting immigration.

Posted by: Carter at December 28, 2005 8:23 PM

Regarding immigration, I want to treat legal Mexican immigrants, they same way I want to be treated if I migrate to Mexico. Also treat illegal immigrants the same way I want to be treated if I illegally migrate to Mexico. It's a golden rule type thing.

Posted by: h-man at December 28, 2005 8:28 PM

h:

Nothing to do with degree of difficulty or imagined risk, just racism.

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 8:41 PM

h:

Ah, there's where we diverge--you want an America that acts like Mexico, we, and the immigrants, like an America that acts like America.

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 8:42 PM

Carter:

When, oh when, will we ever be able to assimilate the Hun....

Posted by: oj at December 28, 2005 8:43 PM

Carter: What one religion to you imagine the colonists shared?

Posted by: David Cohen at December 28, 2005 10:50 PM
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