December 27, 2005


Iraqi poll winners woo rivals (Shamal Aqrawi, 12/27, Reuters)

Leaders of the Shi'ite and Kurdish blocs that emerged triumphant in this month's Iraqi election agreed on Tuesday to push ahead with efforts to bring Sunni and other parties into a grand coalition government.

The visit of Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim of the Shi'ite Islamist Alliance to the Kurdish capital Arbil opened a series of planned meetings among rival factions intended to ease friction over election results which Sunni and secular parties say have been rigged and to begin building a consensus administration.

"We agreed on the principle of forming a government involving all the parties with a wide popular base," Kurdish regional leader Masoud Barzani told a joint news conference after talks with Hakim, the dominant force in the Alliance.

The Kurds and Shi'a have demonstrated incredible self-restraint the past couple years.

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 27, 2005 4:37 PM

Why have elections if they agreed to ... "form a government involving all the parties with a wide popular base," Like all good deeds, this one will come back to bite them.

Posted by: erp at December 27, 2005 5:33 PM

"Shi'a have demonstrated incredible self-restraint the past couple years"

Those Shi'a have steely discipline, considering that they have to watch American and Kurdish body parts flying past them, while they contemplate heady stuff, like constitutions and such. I suppose it's too much to ask them after 3 years to actually, well you know.. engage the enemy themselves instead of Kurds and Americans.

Yes I know they have been traumatized with the first Bush's betrayal of stopping the removal of Hussein AFTER DESTROYING HIS ENTIRE FRIGGING ARMY, but maybe they can find it in their Islamic hearts (did I say hearts..) to forgive us for not devoting our entire frigging lives and treasure to make Iraq a paradise on earth. But they do show restraint.

Posted by: h-man at December 27, 2005 6:15 PM

Can anyone fill me in on some more information concerning the spectrum of political beliefs, within Kurdish, Shi'a and Sunni factions that are to be represented in the new government; especially, whether or not their are certain groups or members who are openly critical of the US policies in Iraq, past and present?

Posted by: Grog at December 27, 2005 7:04 PM

Why bother, grog. You'll just glean whatever anti-Bush
material you can from it to espouse your Leftist point of view.

Posted by: obc at December 27, 2005 7:09 PM

Grog: Iraq the Model is probably the best place to start. There is no neat mapping from the Arab political spectrum to the western one.

Posted by: joe shropshire at December 27, 2005 7:11 PM

Grog probably believes, as do many of his fellow moonbats, that those who will form the new Iraqi government will quickly move to establish a theocratic Islamic Republic in the mirror image of Iran.

Posted by: Dave W at December 27, 2005 7:54 PM

Heck, Grog thinks the Shi'ites of Iraq are Persian.

Posted by: oj at December 27, 2005 9:33 PM

They are all critical of the US past and present, in descending order.

The Kurds are least critical since we made them a de facto state in '91. The Shi'a are quite critical since we helped Saddam murder them when we allowed him to put down the '91 rising. The Sunni are most critical because we've deposed them and at 20% of the population they'll never have power again.

Posted by: oj at December 27, 2005 9:35 PM

Alright, just to get the record straight, I dislike Republicans and Democrats equally; Bush's handlers are in power now, so he usually gets the most of my criticism.
Secondly, I think my question is very important, but apparently the actual political beliefs of the new government members matter little to the posters on this board.

OJ: can you give me any links where I can get more info about the political histories of the new reps?

Posted by: Grog at December 30, 2005 11:21 PM

OJ: And I will reserve judgement of your apparent knowledge (or lack thereof) of Middle East politics until you can send me some kind of info that proves otherwise; Everyone in the government is critical of the US? I thought we had all those people killed during the first two years of the war?

Posted by: Grog at December 30, 2005 11:25 PM


Kurds here:

Shi'a here:

If you were an Iraqi wouldn't you want the occuppiers out?

Posted by: oj at December 31, 2005 8:50 AM