December 16, 2005


President Backs McCain Measure on Inmate Abuse (ERIC SCHMITT, 12/16/05, NY Times)

Under intense bipartisan Congressional pressure, President Bush reversed course on Thursday and reluctantly backed Senator John McCain's call for a law banning cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of prisoners in American custody. [...]

"We've sent a message to the world that the United States is not like the terrorists," Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican, said as he sat next to Mr. Bush in the Oval Office. "What we are is a nation that upholds values and standards of behavior and treatment of all people no matter how evil or bad they are."

Isn't the message more that we don't have the honor and decency to do the torture ourselves so we'll outsource it?

Posted by Orrin Judd at December 16, 2005 7:28 AM

What will be annoying is that the pundits and blogs will rip into Bush on this when it was really McCain and the squishy GOPers who forced Bush's hand on this (kind of like CFR).

Posted by: AWW at December 16, 2005 7:59 AM

The Marine in the room in Fallujah had the right idea.

Posted by: Genecis at December 16, 2005 10:34 AM

McCain is a master of the wedge issue. One problem though, he uses it only on Republicans.

Posted by: h-man at December 16, 2005 10:43 AM

The most powerful man in the world, McCain is.

I'm not voting for him.

Husband talked me into voting, will be a write-in candidate. Either Rudy or my daughter.

Posted by: Sandy P at December 16, 2005 10:48 AM

He had the wide end of the wedge in Congress.

Posted by: oj at December 16, 2005 10:49 AM

Isn't the message that if you're captured by Americans you'll be able to do the time standing on one leg?

Posted by: Bartman at December 16, 2005 11:21 AM

oj - People don't fear terrorism any more as much as they fear being looked down upon as mean, and politicians are pandering to that. But it's irresponsible. The real terrorist danger, from nuclear-armed terror-sponsoring states, is just beginning.

Posted by: pj at December 16, 2005 11:31 AM

Sandy: I'm going to write in either Condi or Zell Miller, I haven't decided which yet...

Posted by: b at December 16, 2005 11:45 AM

Bartman: Making people stand on one leg for extended periods of time is torture.

Posted by: David Cohen at December 16, 2005 11:52 AM


Sure, but we've always beenm irresponsible between wars., It's worked out reasonably well.

Posted by: oj at December 16, 2005 11:57 AM

I'm tempted to say that anyone who fought in Vietnam shouldn't be allowed within a hundred miles of the top of the greasy pole.

Of course I know that there are many brilliant folks who were there and subsequently analyzed brilliantly what happened.

But then I keep coming back to folks like McCain, Powell, and Murtha.

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at December 16, 2005 2:01 PM

Correction: McCain is the most dangerous man in the world.

Posted by: erp at December 16, 2005 2:43 PM