November 11, 2005

WHY THEY DON'T HAVE AN I.D. CONTROVERSY (via Robert Schwartz):

What Makes Someone French? (CRAIG S. SMITH, 11/11/05, NY Times)

Semou Diouf, holding a pipe in one hand and a cigarette in the other, stood amid the noisy games of checkers and cards in the dingy ground-floor common room of a crowded tenement building and pondered the question of why he feels French.

"I was born in Senegal when it was part of France," he said before putting the pipe in his mouth. "I speak French, my wife is French and I was educated in France." The problem, he added after pulling the pipe out of his mouth again, "is the French don't think I'm French."

That, in a nutshell, is what lies at the heart of the unrest that has swept France in the past two weeks: millions of French citizens, whether immigrants or the offspring of immigrants, feel rejected by traditional French society, which has resisted adjusting a vision of itself forged in fires of the French Revolution. The concept of French identity remains rooted deep in the country's centuries-old culture, and a significant portion of the population has yet to accept the increasingly multiethnic makeup of the nation. Put simply, being French, for many people, remains a baguette-and-beret affair.

Though many countries aspire to ensure equality among their citizens and fall short, the case is complicated in France by a secular ideal that refuses to recognize ethnic and religious differences in the public domain. [...]

"People have it in their head that surveying by race or religion is bad, it's dirty, it's something reserved for Americans and that we shouldn't do it here," said Yazid Sabeg, the only prominent Frenchman of Arab descent at the head of a publicly listed French company. "But without statistics to look at, how can we measure the problem?"

Mr. Sabeg was born in Algeria when it was French territory and moved to France with his family as an infant. His father worked as a laborer and later a mechanic to put him through a Jesuit boarding school, and he went on to earn a Ph.D. at the Sorbonne.

He scoffs at the notion of a French identity based on what he believes is a fiction of equal rights and France's reluctance to engage in debate about the gap between ideals and reality. [...]

French leaders admit failings but insist they are working to bring equality to all citizens and have embarked on an oblique public debate about what it means to be French. But that debate is still bounded by fidelity to ideals of the French Republic. President Jacques Chirac told reporters at Élysée Palace on Thursday that the government "hasn't been fast enough" in addressing the problems of discrimination, but that, "no matter what our origins, we are all children of the Republic."


If non-French are unequal in economic fact them they must not be human, else egalitie is a falsehood. The French Proposition thus requires Darwinism/racism.

MORE:
Who's fanning the flames?: It is not that assimilation has failed, but that France only pays lip service to assimilation. (James Heartfield, 11/08/05, Spiked)

It is not that assimilation has failed, but that France only pays lip service to assimilation, while practically refusing it to the descendants of North African migrants. That much is painfully obvious from the way that the more traditionally minded Gaullists in Chirac's government, prime minister Dominique de Villepin and President Chirac himself have not sought to champion equal rights, but appear to have used the riots to embarrass Sarkozy, their rival for leadership of the ruling Union for the Presidential Majority (UMP).

France's ethnic minorities feel precious little affiliation to their political class. Half a century ago they were organised by the Communist Party (PCF) - though it insisted on keeping them in migrant organisations like L'Etoile Du Nord, and cleaving to a fiercely patriotic line that did not balk at organising indigenous attacks on migrant workers.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 11, 2005 11:34 AM
Comments

does legislated morality displace genuine morality ? ["genuine" was a poor choice of word (mal bot) but i think you know what i am trying to say here]

Posted by: plato at November 11, 2005 12:00 PM

All the French Enlightenment & Revolution figures were racist, except Montesquieu, who was really a member of the Christian/British/American Enlightenment.

Posted by: pj at November 11, 2005 12:07 PM

plato:

No, you can legitimately legislate immorality. That's why conservatives distrust democracy.

Posted by: oj at November 11, 2005 12:08 PM

Good observations about French hypocrasy. However, I notice neither article mentions Islamism.

Posted by: L. Rogers at November 11, 2005 2:46 PM

Henry Kissinger meet with Chou En-lai, Mao Tse-tung’s long time right hand man in 1972 in preparation for Nixon’s trip to China. During a social moment in their schedule, Kissinger asked Chou what he thought about the French Revolution. Chou replied: "Too soon"

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No longer, the returns are in. The last precinct has reported. It was a failure on every level. The ideals of the revolution cannot be reconciled with the fact of historic national identity. The anti-revolutionary catholic conservatives of the 19th century were correct, the identity of France is rooted in tradition and the Church, not in the slogans of the revolution. France can be universal or it can continue to exist.

The tragedy of France is that the catholic conservatives botched the 20th Century so badly (Dreyfuss Affair, WWI, WWII, Vichy, Nazi Collaboration, Colonial Wars) that by the dawn of the 5th Republic, they could not be revived by DeGaulle.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz at November 14, 2005 1:05 AM
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