November 2, 2005
THEY ARE WHO THEY CLAIM WE ARE (via Dave W.):
Absentee ballots tainted?: Some Detroit voters are incapacitated, without valid addresses, raising question of mayoral election's fairness. (David Josar, Lisa M. Collins and Brad Heath, 10/30/05, The Detroit News)
A Detroit News investigation raises serious questions about the handling of absentee ballots under Detroit City Clerk Jackie Currie as the city prepares to choose a mayor, City Council and school board Nov. 8.Currie has been accused of irregular election practices in several lawsuits, and a review of election results, property records and databases of registered voters uncovered procedures that experts and other election officials described as questionable.
Among findings by News reporters were ballots cast by people registered to vote at abandoned and long-demolished buildings; a master voter list with 380,000 incorrect names and addresses -- including people who have died or moved out of the city; and a practice of hand-delivering ballots from senior citizens and disabled voters that were filled out in private meetings with Currie's paid election workers.
If the mayoral race came down to a close vote demanding a recount of absentee ballots, the result could be chaotic.
But the most poignant findings were stories from those in nursing homes who had recently voted absentee.
Among them is Charles B. Allen, a resident at the Passion Caring Home for the Elderly who stared blankly one day last week when asked to name the mayor of Detroit. He's never heard of Kwame Kilpatrick and can't recall whether he voted in August.
"I just don't know," Allen said. Six years ago, a Wayne County probate judge declared the 87-year-old legally incapacitated due to dementia and Alzheimer's.
But according to city records, he voted in the August primary by absentee ballot.
He did so with the aid of Rose Johnson, one of City Clerk Jackie Currie's 50 election assistants, who met with him in a private room and helped complete his ballot, according to nursing home owner Gena Payne. Johnson declined to speak to a reporter.
He seems like a typical enough Democratic voter to us. Posted by Orrin Judd at November 2, 2005 2:23 PM
Which is what happens when "Count every vote" cross-breeds with "Vote early, vote often"
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 2, 2005 2:41 PMAtleast he's alive. That's more than you can say about other democrat voters.
Posted by: mc at November 2, 2005 2:45 PMHere is a simple exercise:
1) Get the voter rolls from a given county, along with their voting history. This is usually available directly from the county.
2) Run the data set through an address cleaning service. It will cost you a few hundred dollars, depending on the size of the county. Some counties' data is pretty clean, others, not so much.
Look at the number of voters with addresses that are flagged as 'Commercial' or 'Business'. In Texas, this is not allowed, since you must register to vote with the address of where you live. Also have a look at the number of addresses that can not be located. In some cases, this might be due to data entry errors, but usually it is pure voter fraud. Somehow these voter registration cards never get delivered (which is supposed to suspend the voter), but the voter voted.
3) If you really want to have fun, submit the voter rolls to the Social Security Administration and see how many people are flagged as dead and have death benefits being paid to someone.
4) If you really, really want to have fun, look at the primaries the person voted in before their 'death' and compare them to the primaries they voted in after their 'death'. Observe the number of people who apparently changed parties after they've died.
This isn't hard to do. I was the database tech who performed the above processes for several counties and I was appalled at the obvious voter fraud. They didn't even try to hide it. And they were all Democrats. Every one.
Posted by: TIGPresto at November 2, 2005 5:11 PMTIGPresto - I'd be very much interested in hearing more about this -- confidentially, if you wish. You can email me at: jimxc@jimxc.seanet.com
(And I would be interested in hearing from anyone else with similar information. I have been collecting for several years, all the information I can on vote fraud. And, since I live in Washington state, I have some extra reasons for doing so. We have relatively clean elections here, but there is no doubt in my mind that illegal votes gave Governor Gregoire her narrow plurality. And they may have given Senator Cantwell her narrow plurality in 2000.)
Posted by: Jim Miller at November 2, 2005 5:51 PMI'll second what Jim Miller says. Sound Politics has been documenting the problems within King County and the rest of the Upper Left Washington, and we are considered relatively "clean". What must Cook County, Louisiana or West Virginia look like?
And not only that, but notice so much of modern vote fraud revolves around absentee or provisional ballots, which are completely ignored by "vote reform advocates" like former President Peanut. When people like "Instapundit" say the solution to vote fraud are "purple fingers", they are just showing how ignorant of the problem they really are.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 2, 2005 6:59 PM. . . don't forget how the Monorail election passed only after many,many days of counting every last "vote".
Posted by: obc at November 2, 2005 7:50 PM