November 2, 2005


CIA Holds Terror Suspects in Secret Prisons: Debate Is Growing Within Agency About Legality and Morality of Overseas System Set Up After 9/11 (Dana Priest, November 2, 2005, Washington Post)

The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the arrangement.

The secret facility is part of a covert prison system set up by the CIA nearly four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries, including Thailand, Afghanistan and several democracies in Eastern Europe, as well as a small center at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, according to current and former intelligence officials and diplomats from three continents.

The hidden global internment network is a central element in the CIA's unconventional war on terrorism. It depends on the cooperation of foreign intelligence services, and on keeping even basic information about the system secret from the public, foreign officials and nearly all members of Congress charged with overseeing the CIA's covert actions.

The existence and locations of the facilities -- referred to as "black sites" in classified White House, CIA, Justice Department and congressional documents -- are known to only a handful of officials in the United States and, usually, only to the president and a few top intelligence officers in each host country.

Just finished Antonia Fraser's terrific Faith and Treason: The Story of the Gunpowder Plot, which has many parallels to our times. One is that when Guy Fawkes was captured they did not know the extent of the plot nor the participants and decided to torture him in order to obtain the information when he refused to co-operate. Even then torture was unpopular and against the common law, but was allowed when the King specifically authorized it in dire circumstances. Sensible folk we used to be.

Posted by Orrin Judd at November 2, 2005 8:07 AM

I await the calls from an outraged left for a special prosecutor to investigate this leak.

Posted by: Rick T. at November 2, 2005 8:55 AM


Wise to leave out that thousands of Brits were subsequently persecuted solely for their association with the religion of the terrorists involved -- watch the Left milk that supposed parallel for all it's worth.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at November 2, 2005 10:49 AM

Glenn Reynolds, the blogfather, who seldom takes a stand on issues, agrees with you. Here's the link

Posted by: erp at November 2, 2005 11:01 AM


It worked. Now they even have a Catholic PM.

Posted by: oj at November 2, 2005 11:31 AM


Naw, according to your principles he's neither Catholic nor Protestant, but Third Way.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at November 2, 2005 2:21 PM


Does that mean that a Third Way politician is in violation of the First Commandment?

Posted by: jim hamlen at November 2, 2005 10:41 PM