November 24, 2005

BOYS WILL BE BOYS

Binge-drink women may lose right to claim rape (Frances Gibb, London Times, November, 25th, 2005)

Women who are raped while drunk face losing the chance to bring their attackers to justice after a legal ruling on the eve of new licensing laws.

A High Court judge yesterday threw out the case of a student who claimed that she was raped while drunk and unconscious on the basis that “drunken consent is still consent”.

The judgment came hours before the sweeping relaxation of Britain licensing laws which introduces 24-hour drinking in pubs for the first time.

The change prompted police and doctors to warn that Britain was facing an explosion of binge drinking.

The prosecution in the rape case had said it could not go on after the woman admitted that she could not remember whether she gave consent or not or whether sex had taken place. The jury at Swansea Crown Court was told: “Drunken consent is still consent.”

The judge agreed, instructing the jury to return a verdict of not guilty “even if you don’t agree”.

The drama student was allegedly raped by another student, who was working as a security guard, while she claimed she was unconscious through drink in a corridor outside her flat in a university’s hall of residence.

She told the jury that she had no recollection of events but insisted that she would not have agreed to sex with the man.

“If I had wanted to sleep with him I would have taken the few steps to my bedroom,” she said.

The problem with modern rape laws, like sexual harassment laws, is not the tiresome male whine about how one-sided they are–-they exist to protect women, not men–-but that they hinge entirely on the subjective feelings of the woman and ignore, indeed reject, any objective context that would imply normal (or even predictable) standards of behaviour against which the credibility of the parties might be measured. Just as our sexual harassment laws assume that office affairs and sexual innuendo are perfectly acceptable and nobody’s business if both parties are on board, so this case seems to suggest that lots of co-eds might choose to get blotto and then have sex with strange security guards while lying comatose in a residence hallway–-who’s to say and what business is it of yours, buddy? As Tom Wolfe understood well, the feminist-libertarians who fought so hard and so successfully for the right to behave badly took on the timeless reality of human sexuality and have left behind a long trail of pathetic victims of criminal jerks like this guy.

Posted by Peter Burnet at November 24, 2005 7:01 AM
Comments

Stand-up comedian/philosopher Chris Rock says that guys wanted to go to anti-war peace rallies because they knew it was a good place to get a piece.

Posted by: John J. Coupal at November 24, 2005 7:52 AM

John, this is confirmed by a neighbor's college son who said he and his friends didn't care about anti-war sentiments, they went to the marches because of the girls and felt this was the case among almost all the boys, yet it was never reported as such in the media at the time.

Curious what?

Posted by: erp at November 24, 2005 8:46 AM

The least they could do is update the warnings on booze bottle labels.

Posted by: Barry Meislin at November 24, 2005 8:46 AM

I mean anti-Vietnam-war, of course.

Posted by: erp at November 24, 2005 8:46 AM

The only reason why men listen to or claim to like the band REM is to get laid.

Posted by: Bryan at November 24, 2005 7:03 PM

Or, she could have gotten drunk, decided to have sex with a strange guy, and then passed out and couldn't remember exactly what had happened.

Deciding that she'd been raped saves face.

Perhaps in Canada the normal and predictable standard of behavior is that male security guards will rape comatose students, but in America (and apparently in Britain), that's not the case.

Additionally, people who intentionally render themselves unconscious in public have small cause for complaint, regardless of what happens to them.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 25, 2005 8:36 AM

By which I take it you mean drunken women are by definition fair game? Serves 'em right, eh Bubba?

Posted by: Peter B at November 25, 2005 9:51 AM

"The problem with modern rape laws...is not the tiresome male whine about how one-sided they are-they exist to protect women, not men..."

Except for a certain blogger who keeps a running list of the men whose prison bitch he'd willingly be...

Posted by: Tom at November 27, 2005 9:17 AM
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