oj. Why penalize everybody because some teenagers are irresponsible? Lots of people find it a relief when their kids can drive themselves places, pick up their younger siblings and do errands. Parents need to do their part in making sure their kids are safe drivers by laying down inviolate rules about using the family car.

Ours were simple: Safe driving, i.e., no drinking, no carousing, no speeding, etc. = Unlimited use of the car, gas credit card, fully paid insurance. Unsafe driving, see above = No car, not now, not ever.

Worked like a charm.

Because all teenagers are irresponsible.

"It's foolish ever to allow the least responsible segment of society behind the wheel."

Yes, but that segment is named "Kennedy", so what are you going to do about it?

He's a senior citizen--they should be banned too.

In my experience the only people who deny intentionally driving like maniacs as teens are Mr. Magoo types, who still drive like maniacs but don't realize it.

Teenagers provide a valuable source of cheap labor for franchises around the country. Poor kids, like myself, need both a car to have a job, and a job to have a car. So we either have them cook and serve your pizza and burgers, or we look for another sector of American society to exploit (hint: adult immigrants).

Kool:

Walk.

kool, stop masquerading as a teenager.

Don't forget that OJ thinks that *nobody* should be permitted to drive without his express written consent.

OJ: We think 18 year olds are responsible enough to drive tanks and fly fighter planes, but we don't think they're responsible enough to drive? Where's Eric Burdon now that we need him?

"You're old enough to kill,
but not for drivin'
You'll have to walk to the store,
It's your car we'll be deprivin'"

It seems just about anything on the subject of automobiles that brings out oj's inner statist...

One more example of the gun-comtrol mentality: some young people can't handle cars, so we take them away from all young people.

Gov:

No, we think they're dumb enough to kill and be killed. If they were old enough to be responsible citizens we'd not send them.

I'm sure that 20 years from now my opinion on this issue will have firmed up.

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I have some sympathy for Orrin's view. I frequently find myself observing, in the strongest terms, that teenage males should not be allowed near the roads.

They drive like angels to pass the test, then drive like hell immediately after it, because they have an immature concept of risk.

Not sure whether it's the same in the US, but in Britain, under-25 men have to pay quite astronomical car insurance rates.

Which isn't much consolation when they've run you into a lamp-post.