October 6, 2005


Perp Walk (Joe Wezorek, 10/06/05, The Nation)

Posted by Orrin Judd at October 6, 2005 3:21 PM

From the quote from the justice: what about it is not applicable with the current state of US aggression and violation of international agreements?

What the heck does this have to do with a meme? And where have you been since the Nixon administration; probably the first time after WWII that the Nazis were invoked to be compared to US govt (to my knowledge, Truman, Eisenhower, and Kennedy were never a distinction that neo-cons should be so proud of.)

Posted by: Kent at October 6, 2005 4:02 PM

Well, we didn't start a war of aggression and we didn't violate any treaties. Other than that, Justice Jackson's words apply fully.

Posted by: David Cohen at October 6, 2005 4:34 PM


Yes, leftists are quite quick to compare GOP presidents to Nazis; conservatives are more mature. Eisenhower only got a pass because he fought them. This says a lot more about your side than it says about us.

Posted by: Matt Murphy at October 6, 2005 4:38 PM

I believe as early as 1948, Truman was comparing Republicans to Nazis on the campaign stump.

Posted by: Ed Driscoll at October 6, 2005 5:16 PM

FDR beat him to it in '42 when they realized they were going to lose control of Congress because of the unpopularity of the War.

Posted by: oj at October 6, 2005 5:24 PM


Wow. Got a source for that?

Posted by: Matt Murphy at October 6, 2005 5:38 PM

What did we expect from The Nation.

The quote has nothing to do with the current situation. Jackson had been speaking in his role as Nuremberg prosecutor, in response to the Nullum crimen sine legem argument from the defendants.

We are quite well covered by international law in this instance, there being plenty of wiggle room in various preexisting Security Council resolutions.

Of course old Europe, and all the other people who feel either diminished of restrained by American power, can come up with all kinds of arguments as to why this or that activity of our is "illegal." None of these laments mean anything until and unless we should commit the war crime.

Posted by: Lou Gots at October 6, 2005 5:49 PM

Thomas Fleming's New Dealers' War



in 1942 he'd promised to set partisan politcs aside, so he had Wallace, Willkie, and company do it.

Posted by: oj at October 6, 2005 5:51 PM


Thanks, I have a copy of the book, I guess it's about time I read it.

BTW, that's not the same Thomas Fleming who edits Chronicles magazine, is it?

Posted by: Matt Murphy at October 7, 2005 2:24 AM

No. This Fleming is a mainstream historian. The other's a paleocon.

Posted by: oj at October 7, 2005 7:19 AM

That's so offensive!

W. is not that dumpy. They need a thinner body to go with the head.

Posted by: RC at October 7, 2005 9:09 AM