The quoted passage is a spectacular example of selective use of data. Antarctica has in fact been getting marginally colder, and the Antarctic ice cap has been getting thicker (as has the Greenland ice cap). The phenomena the passage ascibes to "Antarctica" have been occurring on the Antarctic Peninsula, which sticks out north of the Antarctic Circle, and constitutes about 4% of the continent's area. And which is so affected by shifts in local ocean currents as to be useless as a gauge of anything global.

According to global warming theory, the polar regions should be most affected by global warming. The fact that the Antarctic has been unaffected would be sufficient disproof of the theory, if we were doing science.

Bob --

You took the words out of my mouth. The global warming occurring on Mars should also give pause, if were talking about science and not ideology.

Not to mention that, if it is too late now, it was always too late. Adopting Kyoto ten years ago would not have made any difference, even according to the proponents of Kyoto.

Bob...

I'm not seeing you cite any data, although I can forgive your knee-jerk response, since the original poster neglected to quote or link to the original Guardian news article. The peninsular data is based on long term field studies, not a few samples taken one summer... and its at the peninsula where all the important biological processes are taking place, not at the pole, where nothing can live.

As if global warming never happened before during mankind's tenure on the globe. For evidence, check the arctic core samples that verify the warming that took place facilitating the Scandinavian explorations and settlements during the 10th century. Whatever happened to the Ice Age?

leftists have never been right before, about anything, but global warming could be a first for them. anyone seen a foot around here ?

If you residence got a little warm one evening, would you suspect the toaster, or the furnace? How about if you knew that the last few times it happened, you didn't even own the toaster?

Yes. We need to push back the effects of global warming.The first step is to reintroduce that ice sheet that made Canada the Really Great White North 10,000 years ago. Just covering up Sudbury will make it a net benefit. (Okay, so we gotta give up Wisconsin and Michigan, but sacrifices must be made...)

The important thing about Antartica is that because the Circum-Polar Current can flow unimpeded around it, this prevents any warm waters from reaching that continent's shores. Which is why it is so cold and dry. While it is still inside the Current's ring, the Pennisular area is not affected by the close to the shore counter-currents of the rest of the continent. It's weather is more like that of the tip of South America in that regard.

Sure, I think that fossil fuels have contributed to global warming, but it is silly to think that we will sacrifice our economies to maintain climate stasis. We'll just adjust to the warming as we always have adjusted to climate changes.

Bob, you need to understand GW better. If the arctic is getting warmer, that is because GW is making it warmer. If the Antarctic is getting colder, that is because GW is disrupting the ocean currents and causing it to be colder.

See, no contradiction, no problem. GW causes everything and I can prove it.

It looks like penguins adapt to surfing quite well.

i am training penquins to play volleyball; the trick is to get the bikinis to stay on when they go up for a spike.