September 28, 2005

BRING BACK I.D.S.:

Tories must not swerve to the right, says Davis (Rosemary Bennett, 9/29/05, Times of London)

DAVID DAVIS will not repeat the mistakes of previous Tory leaders by “swerving to the right” to cling on to core Conservative voters, he vowed last night. [...]

[M]r Davis, in an interview with The Times today, says that he is the unifying candidate and will not repeat the mistakes of previous leaders who have made promises to steer a centre course, but then retreated to the right.


So even the conservative Conservative candidate vows to stay to Labour's Left? Mill was certainly right at least as regards Britain's conservatives.

Posted by Orrin Judd at September 28, 2005 10:38 PM
Comments

Mind-boggling.

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at September 28, 2005 10:53 PM


A lot of politically interesting thing will happen now.

Posted by: Fred Dawes at September 29, 2005 2:13 AM

Are there no conservatives left in England?

Posted by: jd watson [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 29, 2005 4:55 AM

They're all conservatives. Which is good for the country, but a problem for the Conservatives.

By 'we mustn't swerve to the right', he actually means 'we must avoid being perceived as the racist, homophobic, sexist party composed of old, fat, bald, arrogant, corrupt, sleazy aristocrats.'

Posted by: Brit at September 29, 2005 5:15 AM

Brit:

They aren't conservatives, which is disastrous for them and the country.

Posted by: oj at September 29, 2005 7:26 AM

They're all British conservatives, not American conservatives. Same family, different species.

Posted by: Brit at September 29, 2005 8:25 AM

Same species, just mostly extinct there.

Posted by: oj at September 29, 2005 8:32 AM

Why do you think New Labour succeeded where Labor failed, and why are the Conservatives floundering when their policies are exactly aligned with the majority of the British public?

Posted by: Brit at September 29, 2005 8:43 AM

Because New Labour followed Thatcher while the Conservatives were running away from her.

Posted by: oj at September 29, 2005 9:35 AM

Yes, New Labour is a Thatcherite party.

The Conservatives are floundering because they are unable to differentiate themselves politically from New Labour. Now that everyone is a Thatcherite conservative, there is no ideological political debate in Britain any more, leaving only such matters as an appearance of competence and the personal appeal of the leaders.

On both counts the Conservatives have failed dismally since John Major. Worse still, their biggest hope - the growing public weariness with Blar - will disappear as soon as Brown takes over.

Posted by: Brit at September 29, 2005 9:45 AM

Major was the failure, the turning away from Thatcherism. Since, only I.D.S. -- with his ties to the American Right -- has seemed to believed in it, so they punted him quick. A Conservative party that ran on nationalism and Thatcherism could take back power, but it's too pro-Europe, anti-American, and secular to be a meaningful alternative to Blair and Brown.

Posted by: oj at September 29, 2005 11:54 AM

IDS? You've got to be kidding. They punted him because made Hague look like Churchill. IDS had anti-charisma.

I'm afraid your other comments illustrate that your understanding of British politics is as good as mine is of American politics.

Posted by: Brit at September 30, 2005 5:13 AM

Charisma doesn't matter--the party needs to be completely rethought and he's the only one recently capable of it. Puntinmg him was, as you suggest, a short term attempt to win an election. They need a long term plan to win the battle of ideas.

They need Robert Taft but are looking for their Ike.

Posted by: oj at September 30, 2005 7:19 AM

I can agree with you there.

Posted by: Brit at September 30, 2005 9:24 AM
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