September 10, 2005

AMERICA'S MAYOR; BUT THE GOP'S? (via Gene Brown):

If he runs for president in '08, Rudy can't fail (THOMAS ROESER, 9/10/05, Chicago Sun-Times)

Hurricane Katrina may have changed the dimension of the nation's politics for 2008. With George W., we voted for him because he would take the fight against terrorism to its origination point: the Middle East. I salute that strategy and believe that Iraq will be democratized with great dividends for our international security.

But next it'll be important to have a president who can slash through red tape and make us secure at home. The Katrina thing wasn't Bush's fault, but what was needed was a president who could pull the trigger domestically, knock heads together with the state and local governments and deliver resources quickly. That spells only one name for future president. In an ideal world he may not have been my first choice, but it's Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani played no role in taming Katrina, but as I saw New Orleans turn into an open sewer, all I could think of was what Giuliani would do. Threats to our country demand a Prince of the City: a prince fearless enough to write his own rules to establish order. And a prince emblematic of Machiavelli's book of the same name, one who can bluff winningly, who can engender fear and respect. As one conservative Republican woman in Temecula, Calif., told radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt: ''All that [meaning pro-life, pro-abortion] doesn't matter if we're not safe." By which she meant Giuliani, the indomitable ex-mayor of New York, the hero of 9/11. With Giuliani, the signal would be transmitted to all: He's determined that we will be safe at home.

The Twin Towers disaster and Katrina were different, but what Giuliani did in New York was to direct the city while instructing the entire country as to what was happening and how he was going to fix it. Giuliani seized the day. He is running first in the 2008 Republican sweepstakes.


Bill Weld showed how easy it is to throw gays overboard, when he expressed his interest in the NY gubernatorial race--if Mayor Giuliani just has a Come to Jesus moment on abortion as well he can perhaps even beat John McCain.

Posted by Orrin Judd at September 10, 2005 7:21 AM
Comments

Katrina works for Giuliani in more than one way.

The first, alluded here, is the "President as super-hero action figure". In my opinion, Giuliani shines here not because anything crucial Bush did or did not do (is or is not doing) as President. He shines because of the contrast between what Giuliani did during 9/11 and what the Mayor of NO and the Gov. of LA did and did not do -- in much more comparable positions. Yet, on this point, Giuliani won't pick much core GOP support than he already has. He will, though, from Independents and some urban Dems.

The second point, and one that will (must) emerge as we unravel the fiasco of NO's man-made disaster (say, vs. MI, AL) is the "root causes" of inner city plight. The Left will want to refight the War on Poverty. The GOP has an opportunity to remind the nation of who and how got us there (the Left and liberalism), and who and how has successfully addressed such a crucial issue (courageous reformers like Giuliani). AEI's magazine had a prescient article in their last edition. The point: "Giuliani "saved" NYC not once, but twice." This is the front on which Giuliani can and should get core (conservative) GOP support.

Posted by: Moe from NC at September 10, 2005 9:37 AM

Bbbbbut, I thought it was McCain's nomination? I thought he was next in line?

Posted by: Jim in Chicago at September 10, 2005 10:36 AM

Giuliani could be to McCain what McCain was to W. SC would be dominated by the Mayor's pecadillos, gays, and abortion.

Posted by: oj at September 10, 2005 10:41 AM

Giuliani might be ale to win if he were nominated, but he is not going to get nominated.

Not only with gays and abortion, but he is also to the left of almost all other Republicans on gun control.

I think that there are a few people who go all tunnel vision and swoon for Giuliani because of how well he did on one issue, but the vast majority of voters are not going to vote solely on disaster response.

If Giuliani suddenly shifts on abortion - I don't think he'll fool the majority of GOPers.

Posted by: Glaivester at September 10, 2005 10:55 AM

I'd vote for Guiliani over McCain any day. I don't like Senators.

Posted by: Melissa at September 10, 2005 11:07 AM

It's not a matter of fooling anyone. Changing your mind about the morality of killing is certainly worth the presidency.

Posted by: oj at September 10, 2005 11:07 AM

Paris for the price of a Mass, as it were.

Posted by: Mike Morley at September 10, 2005 11:32 AM

The funny thing is, in my experience, most of the people who support Giuliani are also hard-core gun rights people (Glenn Reynolds is the archtype here, but I've met others). Even if he gets over the abortion hurdle, that one will hurt him once people start talking about it.

Posted by: Timothy at September 10, 2005 1:18 PM

Giuliani works for me, especially with Condi as VP.

Posted by: erp [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 10, 2005 3:18 PM

Giuliani-Cheney - '008 !

Cheney isn't constitutionally ineligible for running as VP again. Just the thought of him still being around should make for hours of entertainment from all sorts of sources.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at September 10, 2005 4:04 PM

Timothy:

Buggery and abortion trump guns for that crowd.

Posted by: oj at September 10, 2005 4:52 PM

oj: Which crowd? If you mean Reynolds, you're absolutely right. The reverse is true for the entire pro-gun movement, under the leadership of the N.R.A..

Nothing whatsoever trumps guns. No social issue, no considersation of foreign policy--nothing. It has to be that way. Have you never heard of the Pink Pistols?

We shall have to take a close look at Giuiani's soundness in the gun issue at the national level. What an urban politician may have said in the limited context of an already anti-gun jurisdiction may be very different from how he or she would run for and govern in national office.

The N.R.A. is on the offensive, in case you haven't noticed. We have an interest in juducial appointments right now, there being a disagreement among the circuits over the meaning of the Second Amendment. The gun side has the initiative, expending gun and hunting rights, not just passively waiting for the next assasination or schoolyard shooting to defend against whatever those people decide to throw at us.

Giuliani might do just fine--we have to see more

Posted by: Lou Gots at September 10, 2005 5:19 PM

Yes, gun nuts aren't libertarian on any other issue and generally vice versa..

Posted by: oj at September 10, 2005 5:25 PM

Agreed Melissa, particularly mentally unstable Senators (is that redundant?)

Posted by: ed at September 10, 2005 8:17 PM

I'm Pro life, but I'd trust Rudy over McCain any day of the week.

McCain will be Bush 1 on steroids.

"Strange new Respect", Kyoto, Further repeal of the 1st Amendment.

McCain is conservative's Manchurian Candidate. Stay away.

Posted by: Bruno at September 11, 2005 12:01 AM

I don't have an intuitive bead on McCain like some of you seem to, but I'd like to see a McCain/Guiliani ticket. I'd actually like to see Rice as President, but I see her as poor campaigner, sadly. VP perhaps. I don't really care, I'll take what I can get, and if that's a Guiliani as President, well that's got to count for something over a Hillary or whoever they put up there.

Posted by: RC at September 11, 2005 3:23 AM
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