August 31, 2005

WHY WOULDN'T HE WAIT & DROWN THEM?:

Hurricane hits just before homosexual event: Christian activist: Act of God prevented 'Southern Decadence' festival (WorldNetDaily.com, 8/31/05)

Hurricane Katrina walloped New Orleans just two days before the annual homosexual "Southern Decadence" festival was to begin in the town, an act being characterized by some as God's work.

Southern Decadence has a history of "filling the French Quarters section of the city with drunken homosexuals engaging in sex acts in the public streets and bars," says a statement from the Philadelphia Christian organization Repent America.


MORE:
It seems more likely the Flood was just the two-by-four He used to get Alan Greenspan's attention, Dow Ends Up 69 on Philadelphia Fed Plan (Ellen Simon, 8/31/05, AP)

Stocks climbed in a seesaw session Wednesday, rising after the president of the Philadelphia Federal Reserve signaled the central bank could change its interest rate policy in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Wall Street moved higher after Philadelphia Fed President Anthony Santomero called increasing oil prices a "tax" and told CNBC it was too early to say whether the Fed would change its interest rate policy in light of the hurricane's wreckage. Many traders took the comment as a signal that the Fed's year-plus streak of rate hikes might end sooner than expected.

"The president of the Philly Fed is saying the Fed has to adapt to changing circumstances," said Todd Leone, managing director of equity trading at SG Cowen Securities. "With what's going on in New Orleans, I don't think the Fed can raise rates."

Posted by Orrin Judd at August 31, 2005 10:50 AM
Comments

He's a merciful G-d?

Posted by: David Cohen at August 31, 2005 6:03 PM

Then why'd He flood New Orleans to keep them out?

Posted by: oj at August 31, 2005 6:05 PM

Merciful to the repentant, yes. To the unrepentant? They're on their own, as they so choose.

Posted by: flanman at August 31, 2005 6:24 PM

Idiots like Bobby Kennedy Jr. and Pat Robertson are more alike than different, despite their ostensible policy gulf.
Same thought about AIDS being punishment from God. God, therefore, must love lesbians, who have a very low STD rate.

Posted by: john.cunningham [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2005 6:57 PM

john:

What man doesn't?

Posted by: oj at August 31, 2005 8:05 PM

God is merciful. Stranding 20,000 doped up sexual deviants in NO would just be pouring salt into the wound.

Posted by: NC3 at August 31, 2005 8:49 PM

Seems reasonable to me. Flooding a whole city of people in order to postpone a big gay party is just the sort of thing God gets up to.

Got to do something to pass the aeons.

Posted by: Brit at September 1, 2005 4:51 AM

Why are you all so consumed by hate?

Posted by: Anon at September 1, 2005 6:13 AM

Anon:
Have you read the Daily Kos or Democratic Underground lately? Listened to a Howard Dean speech? You folks have cornered the market in hatred. Us wicked conservatives are merely playing catchup. For the record, I don't think God innundated New Orleans because of the homosexuals.

Orrin: Do you really think God gives a crap about Greenspan's economic policies and whether the interest rate is up one quarter of one percent? Talk about hubris!

Posted by: Governor Breck at September 1, 2005 7:27 AM

Who said I was a member of DU or even a liberal?

Posted by: Anon at September 1, 2005 8:09 AM

Governor:

Maybe He just didn't want to suffer through another season of Saints football?

Posted by: oj at September 1, 2005 8:15 AM

Anon:
I never said you were a member of DU; that's why I said you should check it out. As to your politics, well your complete lack of a sense of humor and inability to discern when you're being trolled are clear indicators.

Orrin:
God hates football. I think we all know that now.

Posted by: Governor Breck at September 1, 2005 8:55 AM

Couldn't He have pushed the Flood waters at least to Dallas?

Posted by: oj at September 1, 2005 8:59 AM

Apparently, Greenspan's wife is part of the effort to talk up the lowering of interest rates, by talking down the relief efforts underway:

Andrea Mitchell: "We should point out that Venezuela, perhaps with a bit of its, a sense of irony, has also volunteered aid, energy assistance. That coming in the aftermath of the continuous criticism by this administration of Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez and, of course, the flap between a past Republican presidential candidate and administration colleague, dare we say, Pat Robertson, who, in fact, threatened and said that the United States should try to assassinate Hugo Chavez for his communist leanings and his relationship with Fidel Castro. That was at least criticized by the administration, but in any case, they're not rushing to embrace any offer of help, of oil assistance from the Venezuelans."

Chris Matthews: "You know, it strikes me again, and it often does in these situations, and I'd love your thought on it, you know we often argue about states' rights and the need to reduce the size of the federal government, yet in a crisis, it's the federal government which has the resources, the money, the manpower, the personpower I should say, to do the job. And there's no question the states want that help immediately."

Mitchell: "Absolutely. The first thing that the states want is for the President to declare a federal emergency because that entitles FEMA to move in. FEMA has proved in the past that since the Clinton days, that it can move very effectively. As you recall, Bill Clinton managed to turn FEMA into an asset, not a liability, after we had seen this President Bush's father stumble several times with disaster assistance, but Bill Clinton appointed an Arkansas friend who managed to turn, James Lee Witt, who turned that whole operation around, and it has been very successful in the intervening years. FEMA is the one agency that can come in and coordinate everyone. Now, we've seen also, post-9/11, that federal disaster assistance and coordination was sorely lacking. All of the subsequent reports showed that in the event of a terror attack, there was very little communication and, some say, still is. But this, at least, is a test of a natural disaster, a manmade disaster, and how the feds are responding. And we're hearing from the field both praise and criticism, that there wasn't a quick enough response. One thing that I am not really up to speed on, and I'd welcome any help from some of our colleagues at the Pentagon, is how much the National Guard deployments from around the region to Iraq and Afghanistan and other parts of the world has depleted the resources that were available, at least in the first 48 hours, to New Orleans."

(On a side note, I suppose it would be churlish to also point out to Andrea that Venezualan-owned Citgo was the company that was given lead authority by the Bush Administration to make the request granted Wednesday by the administration to open up the strategic petroleum reserves on the Louisiana border in Texas, so that operational area refineries could contiune processing even while the offshore delivery system is brought back on line. But that would mess up her "Pat Robertson is George W. Bush" talking points.)

Posted by: John at September 1, 2005 9:01 AM

He declared the emergency before the Hurricane hit so that FEMA could start up beforehand. Does she do any reporting?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/national/nationalspecial/01bush.html

Posted by: oj at September 1, 2005 9:10 AM

Brit:

Ah, you've got Just So Stories for my religion as well as yours?

Posted by: oj at September 1, 2005 9:12 AM

So....Disneyworld is next then, eh?

Posted by: John Resnick at September 1, 2005 5:20 PM

Certainly, why not?

God is on our side except when he isn't but then he is really and it's just Mysterious Ways.

A whole load of stuff just happens all over the shop. One damn thing after another: not just floods and hurricanes. Whole swathes cut down by bowel cancer and strokes.

If you think there's somebody up there directing all that stuff, then one just so story is as good as another. Why not a hurricane to cancel a Gay Parade? It would rank as no more than average among the crazy things he gets up to for our benefit or his own cantankerous amusement.

As you say, reason doesn't come into it.

Posted by: Brit at September 1, 2005 7:29 PM

Brit:

Because He isn't subtle. He told us when he did stuff and pretty much stopped after His experience as a Man taught Him why we were such sinners.

Judeo-Christianity isn't like Darwinism; it doesn't require fables.

Posted by: oj at September 1, 2005 7:35 PM

Everyone knows God does stuff all the time. Pretty much everything, in fact.

For example, whenever George Bush initiates a new policy, whenever an American athlete wins an Olympic gold medal or a schoolkid wins the spelling bee, whenevever the family dog is called up to heaven, or if Auntie Ethel survives her operation or if Auntie Ethel doesn't survive her operation, that was God.

Posted by: Brit at September 2, 2005 4:10 AM

Brit:

no, that's how Darwinism works, everything has to be a respnse to survival pressures. God have us free will and turned us loose. Darwinists are just frightened of that.

Posted by: oj at September 2, 2005 6:58 AM

I thought that weather was Intelligently Designed?

Posted by: Brit at September 2, 2005 8:10 AM

It is. Without our climate we wouldn't be here. That's why we're the only planet with such a climate. Thus Fermi's paradox.

Posted by: oj at September 2, 2005 8:25 AM

Just the nice weather or hurricanes too?

Posted by: Brit at September 2, 2005 8:37 AM

Can't have the one without the other. I prefer the storms.

Posted by: oj at September 2, 2005 8:45 AM

Just so.

Posted by: Brit at September 2, 2005 8:50 AM

Nope, it's exactly what He told us:

1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4: And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6: And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8: And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9: And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10: And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11: And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12: And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13: And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14: And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16: And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17: And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18: And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19: And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20: And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21: And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22: And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23: And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24: And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29: And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30: And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Posted by: oj at September 2, 2005 9:12 AM

Like I said, just so.

Posted by: Brit at September 2, 2005 9:31 AM

No, it's revelation and reality comports with it so there's no need for just so stories. By contrast, the Darwinian revelation fails to comport with reality so its adherents have to cook up what Stephen Jay Gould named just so stories.

Posted by: oj at September 2, 2005 9:58 AM

Arf.

Posted by: Brit at September 2, 2005 11:36 AM

Our Earth is far from the only planet with an Earth-like atmosphere or climate.

It's merely the only planet one in this system.

Posted by: Michael Herdegen [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 2, 2005 2:58 PM

You bet.

Posted by: oj at September 2, 2005 3:48 PM

Hey oj,

In the begining when God said, "Let there be light,".... who was he talking to?

Posted by: RamDriver at September 3, 2005 1:33 AM

Ram:

Himself. He was lonely which is why He Created us.

Posted by: oj at September 3, 2005 8:12 AM
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