August 7, 2005


CIA Commander: We Let bin Laden Slip Away (Michael Hirsch, 8/15/05, Newsweek)

[I]n a forthcoming book, the CIA field commander for the agency's Jawbreaker team at Tora Bora, Gary Berntsen, says he and other U.S. commanders did know that bin Laden was among the hundreds of fleeing Qaeda and Taliban members. Berntsen says he had definitive intelligence that bin Laden was holed up at Tora Bora—intelligence operatives had tracked him—and could have been caught.

Instead it continues to seem most likely that he's buried in the rubble there.

Posted by Orrin Judd at August 7, 2005 8:54 AM

how do you explain his video tapes AFTER the bombings?

Posted by: busybody at August 7, 2005 3:57 PM

It's not Osama.

Posted by: oj at August 7, 2005 4:01 PM

Rich Little, maybe?

Dont like like a LIB and be silly!

Posted by: busybody at August 7, 2005 4:03 PM

Rich Little does voices--do you speak Arabic well enough to say you're certain that's Osama?

Posted by: oj at August 7, 2005 5:58 PM

Instead it continues to seem most likely that he's buried in the rubble there.

Translation: Whatever I want to believe must be true. Don't bother me with evidence, I don't need any.

Posted by: Pug at August 7, 2005 6:00 PM


Where is he?

Posted by: oj at August 7, 2005 6:06 PM

I, too, believe he's been atomized and become one with the earth, but in the end, what does it matter? Dead or alive, he's history.

Posted by: erp at August 7, 2005 6:47 PM

We need to ask - why do the leftists insist on knowing Osama's fate (or location)?

Answer - if we I'D him tomorrow, we could kill him, and then the WOT is over. Time to go back to sleep, or to move on, or whatever. Get rid of Bush.

And many moonbats (like George Galloway, Michael Moore, Patty Murray, Howard Dean, probably John Kerry, Madeline Albright, etc.) would demand that he be arrested and tried. Or hailed as a hero. Or installed as the leader of Saudi Arabia.

But that still leaves Zawahiri, Zarqawi, Hezbollah, Khameini, the new 'President' of Iran, Heykmatyr, and probably 1000 other gangsters running their local version of Al Qaeda (such as Ansar Al-Islam, etc.).

Osama is old news. Those of his followers we have not killed (yet) are not. The global 'terror' network is not (you know, the one situated firmly in Tehran). And the tendrils in South America, Southern Africa, and Europe are not. And then there is Pakistan.

Posted by: jim hamlen at August 7, 2005 7:04 PM


I too reviewed the video and came to the same conclusion - albeit less definitively than did you - it's probably not him.

Why keep the idea of OBL alive, then? Cuz it suits both sides.

AQ avoids the power struggle that would surely follow his death.

The US? They get to watch all those "decentralized" (Orwell would chuckle) cells sit in limbo, waitng for orders that will never come.

Everyone happy.

Posted by: ras at August 8, 2005 4:48 AM


Yes, the war ends in Western Pakistan and sending troops in requires the fiction that Osama is alive there.

Posted by: oj at August 8, 2005 7:55 AM