July 25, 2005


Boeing in Talks with Indian Air Force To Supply F-18s (India Defence, 25/7/2005)

Boeing said on July 22 it had begun preliminary talks with India on selling and co-producing F-18 Super Hornet fighter planes, a month after New Delhi and Washington signed a far-reaching defense pact.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has plans to buy as many as 126 multi-role fighters for an estimated $9 billion, as it replaces its aging fleet of Russian-built MiG 21s.

Forget the spinning wheel, the various Gandhis are spinning in their graves.

Posted by Orrin Judd at July 25, 2005 8:02 PM

Wonder what Pakistan and China think of that?

Posted by: John J. Coupal at July 25, 2005 8:40 PM

Froggies are steaming, too! Wonder how that lawsuit is going.

Posted by: Sandy P at July 25, 2005 11:45 PM

and the don of global weapons traffic brings another mule into the fold...

Posted by: lonbud at July 25, 2005 11:52 PM


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Posted by: cjm at July 26, 2005 12:34 AM

and they say the old south is dead...

Posted by: lonbud at July 26, 2005 1:06 AM

Although technically the sale of advanced fighter/bombers is "weapons trafficking", there's a pretty big difference between selling AKs to Chechnyan rebels and this.

Primarily, the F-18 sale to India would have a stabilizing influence in the region.

Also, since Boeing would be transferring the technology to Indian engineers, it will allow Indian manufacturers to design future airframes, to keep up with China. (No need to worry about keeping up with Pakistan, since that nation is presently incapable of designing or building advanced aircraft - just like every other majority-Muslim nation on Earth).

Posted by: Michael Herdegen at July 26, 2005 2:49 AM

seems like a reasonable theory, but it doesn't fully take the pakistani wild-card into account, IMHO.

as to the "weapons trafficking" analogy, well, yes, there is a difference between selling crack to homeless guys and selling china white to one of the kennedy clan, but the latter isn't a particularly "stabilizing" endeavour.

Posted by: lonbud at July 26, 2005 11:24 AM

Because, of course, militaries are just like drugs. That's a totally apt analogy. Do you know how many people have been killed because they didn't have enough drugs to defend themselves? Exactly the same.

Posted by: Timothy at July 26, 2005 1:09 PM

addicted to war, addicted to drugs, addicted to love, it's all the same in the end. an unbalanced approach to powerful energies of any stripe leads to heartbreak, ruin, and, often enough, death.

Posted by: lonbud at July 26, 2005 3:53 PM

india is going to take care of pakistan for us, permanently.

Posted by: cjm at July 26, 2005 4:08 PM

Thus, stallion, rather than mule.

Posted by: oj at July 26, 2005 4:14 PM

The interesting thing here is that the F-18 won't be the high end of the IAF's mix. That honor goes to the SU-30, which matches up very well against the F-15.

Posted by: joe shropshire at July 26, 2005 5:17 PM

js: maybe russian crap :) matches up with our gear on paper, but in the real world it gets splashed pretty frequently.

Posted by: cjm at July 26, 2005 10:21 PM

india and pakistan together, at this rate, may well take care of china and a good portion of the other side of the planet permanently --in the harry sense, anyway. :)

Posted by: lonbud at July 27, 2005 12:02 AM